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Postby Eric49 » Thu May 12, 2005 12:50 am

When will the quallie draw be made and where can I expect the cut for the quallies. At which postition do you think is the last accepted player?
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Postby pipoun » Thu May 12, 2005 6:00 am

As 7 WC have been annouced for main draw

- Thierry Ascione (FRA)
- Arnaud Clément (FRA)
- Gaël Monfils (FRA)
- Florent Serra (FRA)
- Gilles Simon (FRA)
were in the qualifying list

but Julien Benneteau (FRA) and Peter Luczak (AUS) were not

So it could allow 5 more players in the qualies :
1. Van Gemerden, Melle NED 252
2. Di Pasquale, Arnaud FRA 253
3. Lorenzi, Paolo ITA 254
4. Sarstrand, Marcus SWE 255
5. Prpic, Filip SWE 256
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Postby PatatRiek » Thu May 12, 2005 6:10 am

Eric49 wrote:When will the quallie draw be made and where can I expect the cut for the quallies. At which postition do you think is the last accepted player?


Quallie draw will me made on Monday, May 16th at 6pm

The second part of yr question cannot be answered (no crystal ball available)

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Thu May 12, 2005 6:54 am

Updates:

St. Poelten (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: A.Costa, Hrbaty, Koubec, Martin, Ventura (and O.Hernandez, Massa, Tipsarevic, Monaco from ALT)
IN: Zib, Sanguinetti, Garcia-Lopez, Calatrava, Schalken
NEXT: Haehnel, Vanek, Calleri, Burgsmuller, Lisnard, Hanescu, Almagro, Phau, Sanchez, Ulihrach

Roland Garros Qual.
OUT: Ascione, Clement, Corretja, Enqvist, Kratochvil, Luczak, Monfils, Philippoussis, Popp, Serra, Simon, Udomchoke (and M.Russell, T.Chen, F.Costa from the qualies)
IN: Koellerer, Stoppini, Mankad, Eschauer, Gonzalez-King, Blanco, Sela, VanGemerden, DiPasquale, Lorenzi, Sarstrand, Prpic
NEXT: Roitman, Todero, A.Hernandez, Dell'Acqua, Vico, Golmard, Kimmich, DeChaunac, Mlynarik, Vemic, OpeDerHeijde, Mergea, Moraru, Fraile, Roger-Vesselin, Miranda

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Thu May 12, 2005 7:14 am

Benneteau would not need a wildcard anyway, because he is right now NEXT-IN and will make it in directly with the next main draw withdrawal .. Only two WD from the main draw so far, and we know of more players who are candidatest owithdraw ... So I suppose Benneteau's wildcard, and possibly Monfil's, Clement's and even Simon's (they are currently #3, #4 and #9 in the waiting list for main draw) could all be used for other players later.

The problem is that the main draw players may not withdraw by the coming monday when the qualies draw has to be made though. So the FFT would need to waste their wildcards on these 3 or 4 players who could have helped other french players by being some 3 or 4 spots up the ranks! .. That is OK by me, because I generally do not like the idea of USA, GBR, AUS and FRA players getting all this unncessary help from the grand slams :)

As for the question on the final cut for qualies, I would expect it to to fall closer to #275 - and perhaps drop really fast below that on Monday. This is because a lot of players below #260 have entered the challengers next week and are not really candidates for the draw; they are allowed to play the RG qualies if they have lost their challenger first round match by monday evening and tell ATP that they can get to RG by at least wednesday - but most would not be able to play RG Q .. Don't be surprised if the cut inches down to about #270 by monday and then the next 2 or 3 spots forcing the cut from 270 to 290 or 300 ...

In other words, there is no crystal ball on this, as said above! :)

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Postby Guest » Thu May 12, 2005 7:24 am

Hope Kimmich makes it in the Quallie draw and is Nathan Healey in the ALT list?
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Postby Eric49 » Thu May 12, 2005 8:20 am

PatatRiek wrote:Quallie draw will me made on Monday, May 16th at 6pm

The second part of yr question cannot be answered (no crystal ball available)

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Postby Guest » Thu May 12, 2005 3:26 pm

Also Luczak has a WC for the French Open from what I heard.
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Postby NukeD » Thu May 12, 2005 4:25 pm

yes guest that is right! 8)
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Postby NukeD » Thu May 12, 2005 4:26 pm

List of granted WCs: Monfils, Clément, Ascione, Benneteau, Serra, Simon, Luczak :cool:
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Thu May 12, 2005 7:13 pm

Updates:

St. Poelten (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: A.Costa, Hrbaty, Koubek, Martin, R.Mello, Ventura (and O.Hernandez, Massa, Tipsarevic, Monaco from ALT)
IN: Zib, Sanguinetti, Garcia-Lopez, Calatrava, Schalken, Haehnel
NEXT: Vanek, Calleri, Burgsmuller, Lisnard, Hanescu, Almagro, Phau, Sanchez, Ulihrach, Minar

Roland Garros Qual.
OUT: Ascione, Clement, Corretja, Enqvist, Kratochvil, Luczak, Monfils, Philippoussis, Popp, Serra, Simon, Udomchoke (and M.Russell, T.Chen, F.Costa from the qualies)
IN: Koellerer, Stoppini, Mankad, Eschauer, Gonzalez-King, Blanco, Sela, VanGemerden, DiPasquale, Lorenzi, Sarstrand, Prpic
NEXT: Roitman, Todero, A.Hernandez, Dell'Acqua, Vico, Golmard, Kimmich, DeChaunac, Mlynarik, Vemic, OpeDerHeijde, Mergea, Moraru, Fraile, Roger-Vesselin, Miranda

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Postby Ale » Thu May 12, 2005 8:26 pm

Saint Poilten SE: are cleared?
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Fri May 13, 2005 7:00 am

Updates:

St. Poelten (2 SE spots CLEARED)
OUT: Carlsen, A.Costa, Hrbaty, Koubek, Martin, R.Mello, Ventura (and O.Hernandez, Massa, Tipsarevic, Monaco from ALT)
IN: Zib, Sanguinetti, Garcia-Lopez, Calatrava, Schalken, Haehnel, Vanek, Calleri, Burgsmuller
NEXT: Lisnard, Hanescu, Almagro, Phau, Sanchez, Ulihrach, Minar

Roland Garros Qual.
OUT: Arazi, Ascione, Clement, Corretja, Dancevic, Enqvist, Kratochvil, Luczak, Monfils, Philippoussis, Popp, Serra, Simon, Udomchoke (and M.Russell, Kimmich, T.Chen, F.Costa from the qualies)
IN: Koellerer, Stoppini, Mankad, Eschauer, Gonzalez-King, Blanco, Sela, VanGemerden, DiPasquale, Lorenzi, Sarstrand, Prpic, Roitman, Todero
NEXT: A.Hernandez, Dell'Acqua, Vico, Golmard, DeChaunac, Mlynarik, Vemic, OpeDerHeijde, Mergea, Moraru, Fraile, Roger-Vesselin, Miranda, Logtens, Knowle

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Postby Guest » Fri May 13, 2005 11:55 am

R. Jayakrishnan wrote:Updates:

St. Poelten (2 SE spots CLEARED)
OUT: Carlsen, A.Costa, Hrbaty, Koubek, Martin, R.Mello, Ventura (and O.Hernandez, Massa, Tipsarevic, Monaco from ALT)
IN: Zib, Sanguinetti, Garcia-Lopez, Calatrava, Schalken, Haehnel, Vanek, Calleri, Burgsmuller
NEXT: Lisnard, Hanescu, Almagro, Phau, Sanchez, Ulihrach, Minar

Roland Garros Qual.
OUT: Arazi, Ascione, Clement, Corretja, Dancevic, Enqvist, Kratochvil, Luczak, Monfils, Philippoussis, Popp, Serra, Simon, Udomchoke (and M.Russell, Kimmich, T.Chen, F.Costa from the qualies)
IN: Koellerer, Stoppini, Mankad, Eschauer, Gonzalez-King, Blanco, Sela, VanGemerden, DiPasquale, Lorenzi, Sarstrand, Prpic, Roitman, Todero
NEXT: A.Hernandez, Dell'Acqua, Vico, Golmard, DeChaunac, Mlynarik, Vemic, OpeDerHeijde, Mergea, Moraru, Fraile, Roger-Vesselin, Miranda, Logtens, Knowle

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I don't think Calleri will be in St.P. He is currently still receiving treatment for the back injury he incurred in Barcelona last month, and is still at home in Argentina, where his Doctors are saying he may not even be fit enough to play Roland Garros :(
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Postby NukeD » Fri May 13, 2005 12:20 pm

Anonymous wrote:I don't think Calleri will be in St.P. He is currently still receiving treatment for the back injury he incurred in Barcelona last month, and is still at home in Argentina, where his Doctors are saying he may not even be fit enough to play Roland Garros :(


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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Fri May 13, 2005 1:24 pm

Updates:

St. Poelten (2 SE spots CLEARED)
OUT: Carlsen, A.Costa, Hrbaty, Koubek, Martin, R.Mello, Ventura (and Haehnel, Calleri, Burgsmuller, O.Hernandez, Massa, Tipsarevic, Monaco from ALT)
IN: Zib, Sanguinetti, Garcia-Lopez, Calatrava, Schalken, Vanek, Lisnard, Hanescu, Almagro
NEXT: Phau, Sanchez, Ulihrach, I.Minar, Behrend, Moodie

Roland Garros Qual.
OUT: Arazi, Ascione, Clement, Corretja, Dancevic, Enqvist, Kratochvil, Luczak, Monfils, Philippoussis, Popp, Serra, Simon, Udomchoke (and M.Russell, Gonzalez-King, Kimmich, T.Chen, F.Costa from the qualies)
IN: Koellerer, Stoppini, Mankad, Eschauer, Blanco, Sela, VanGemerden, DiPasquale, Lorenzi, Sarstrand, Prpic, Roitman, Todero, A.Hernandez
NEXT: Dell'Acqua, Vico, Golmard, DeChaunac, Mlynarik, Vemic, OpeDerHeijde, Mergea, Moraru, Fraile, Roger-Vesselin, Miranda, Logtens, Knowle, Prodon

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Fri May 13, 2005 1:26 pm

Links where ATP will be posting the St.Poelten draws.

St.Poelten Q -- http://www.atptennis.com/posting/2005/306/QS.pdf

St.Poelten Main -- http://www.atptennis.com/posting/2005/306/MDS.pdf

The qualies draw would come out by about 10 pm local time today, I suppose. The Main draws are to be made at 10.30 am saturday...

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Postby PatatRiek » Fri May 13, 2005 1:28 pm

R. Jayakrishnan wrote:The qualies draw would come out by about 10 pm local time today, I suppose.


the quallie draw is already out Jay

Thanks a lot for all yr updates =D>

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Fri May 13, 2005 1:46 pm

Rick Leach is in the qualies?? .. What the heck is he doing? .. After seemingly finishing his singles career at the age of 30 in 1994, he waited for 8 years and then played singles qualies at Hong Kong in 2002. Waited for two years and played qualies at Shanghai last year .. Now, at the ripe young age of 40, he is playing singles yet again?? ..

I remember seeing that he was retiring from even doubles about 5 years back. I believe he actually did, for oh, like a couple of days :) .. Then somebody asked him to be a partner for just one more year .. Next thing you know Rick was back on court and he was again in the top-20 .. Well he is STILL playing and ranked around top-50 in doubles .. Now he wants to play singles. Man, he must just love playing tennis. I respect the guy. Great player.

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Postby smucav » Fri May 13, 2005 1:57 pm

R. Jayakrishnan wrote:Rick Leach is in the qualies?? .. What the heck is he doing?
Maybe he signs in for singles qualies every week he's playing doubles & this was one of the few times that he was able to get in. Except for the Bryans, I think a lot of the so-called "doubles specialists" try to play singles when they can get in.

Leach likes watching tennis too. I've seen him sitting in the stands watching a few of his sister-in-law's matches this year as well.
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Postby pozaking » Fri May 13, 2005 2:15 pm

R. Jayakrishnan wrote:Updates:

[
Roland Garros Qual.
OUT: Arazi, Ascione, Clement, Corretja, Dancevic, Enqvist, Kratochvil, Luczak, Monfils, Philippoussis, Popp, Serra, Simon, Udomchoke (and M.Russell, Gonzalez-King, Kimmich, T.Chen, F.Costa from the qualies)
IN: Koellerer, Stoppini, Mankad, Eschauer, Blanco, Sela, VanGemerden, DiPasquale, Lorenzi, Sarstrand, Prpic, Roitman, Todero, A.Hernandez
NEXT: Dell'Acqua, Vico, Golmard, DeChaunac, Mlynarik, Vemic, OpeDerHeijde, Mergea, Moraru, Fraile, Roger-Vesselin, Miranda, Logtens, Knowle, Prodon

Jay



Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A. Hernandez is IN at the qualies of RG so 2 mexicans are IN, hope he don´t withdraw. :HeadBang: :) :D
vamos mexico!!!!! Carlos P. you are our hope but you´re 23 years old >=)
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Postby Fee » Fri May 13, 2005 3:17 pm

Jim Thomas is also playing the singles qualies in St Poelten this week. Always get a smile seeing the doubles guys in the qualies. A bunch of them did it a few weeks ago, I think it was the Bermuda Challenger, and Jordan Kerr almost made it in.

Rick actually did retire from the tour to coach Lindsay in 2003, but that only lasted a few months and he went back on the tour again. He is enjoying it, for the most part. I'd be willing to bet that he picks up coaching again when he is finally done playing for real. Lot of tennis in the Leach bloodlines. (He and I kind of became 'friends' at the 2004 San Jose tournament, happy to see him playing with Travis Parrott these days).
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Postby Guest » Fri May 13, 2005 8:41 pm

The draw is out? it says tournie info not yet avaiable
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Postby Andrew_Derer » Fri May 13, 2005 9:24 pm

Why the hell did Marc Kimmich withdraw his 4th Alt for QD :KooKoo: :KooKoo: :KooKoo: :KooKoo: :KooKoo: anyone know why? he better be injured coz thats the only reason he should withdraw froma GS :shocked:
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Postby Amsterdam » Sat May 14, 2005 3:39 am

I think Kimmich play in Dresden challenger.
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Postby florentino » Sat May 14, 2005 11:58 am

Is there a site where we can follow the RG QD and MD live?
That would be pretty cool :HeadBang:
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Postby Elina » Sat May 14, 2005 2:30 pm

The Roland Garros official website will have live scores for both qualie and main draw matches.

http://www.rolandgarros.org
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Sat May 14, 2005 6:51 pm

Roland Garros Qualifying Update:

None :) .. No change. I suppose ATP would update the list after the weekend and I might get it ... So what I posted above is what I know as the latest.

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Postby Tennis724 » Sat May 14, 2005 7:24 pm

QD comes out Monday, right? Do we know the time of day yet?
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Postby Fee » Sat May 14, 2005 11:14 pm

PatatRiek wrote:Quallie draw will me made on Monday, May 16th at 6pm

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How long it will take to put it on the internet somewhere is another matter.
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Postby Andrew_Derer » Sun May 15, 2005 2:25 am

Amsterdam wrote:I think Kimmich play in Dresden challenger.


He withdrew from there too hope his injured coz thats the only reason im guessing
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Postby Amsterdam » Mon May 16, 2005 6:18 am

Jay any updates? 8)
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Mon May 16, 2005 8:04 am

Roland Garros Qual.
OUT: Arazi, Ascione, Clement, Corretja, Dancevic, Enqvist, Kratochvil, Luczak, Mazerakis, Monfils, Philippoussis, A.Popp, Sabau, Serra, Simon, Udomchoke (and M.Russell, Gonzalez-King, Kimmich, T.Chen, F.Costa, Miranda from the ALT)
IN: Koellerer, Stoppini, Mankad, Eschauer, Blanco, Sela, VanGemerden, DiPasquale, Lorenzi, Sarstrand, Prpic, Roitman, Todero, A.Hernandez, Dell'Acqua, Vico
NEXT: Golmard, DeChaunac, Mlynarik, Vemic, OpeDerHeijde, Mergea, Moraru, Fraile, Roger-Vesselin, Logtens, Knowle, Prodon, Moyano, Wauters, Chadaj

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Mon May 16, 2005 8:46 am

Roland Garros Qual.
OUT: Arazi, Ascione, Clement, Corretja, Dancevic, Enqvist, Kratochvil, Luczak, Mazerakis, Monfils, Philippoussis, A.Popp, Sabau, Serra, Simon, Udomchoke (and M.Russell, Gonzalez-King, DiPasquale, Kimmich, T.Chen, F.Costa, Miranda from the ALT)
IN: Koellerer, Stoppini, Mankad, Eschauer, Blanco, Sela, VanGemerden, Lorenzi, Sarstrand, Prpic, Roitman, Todero, A.Hernandez, Dell'Acqua, Vico, Golmard
NEXT: DeChaunac, Mlynarik, Vemic, OpeDerHeijde, Mergea, Moraru, Fraile, Roger-Vesselin, Logtens, Knowle, Prodon, Moyano, Wauters, Chadaj

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Postby seb » Mon May 16, 2005 12:02 pm

WC for qualies go to:

Mathieu Montcourt
Josselin Ouanna
Edouard Roger-Vasselin
Jérémy Chardy
David Guez
Laurent Recouderc
Alexandre Sidorenko
Nicolas Renavand
Gary Lugassy

I don't think that Coutelot, Varlet and Di Pasquale will play again in Roland Garros, what a pity...
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Mon May 16, 2005 12:04 pm

Roland Garros Qual.
OUT: Arazi, Ascione, Clement, Corretja, Dancevic, Enqvist, Kratochvil, Luczak, Mazerakis, Monfils, Philippoussis, A.Popp, Sabau, D.Sanchez, Serra, Simon, Udomchoke (and M.Russell, Gonzalez-King, DiPasquale, Kimmich, T.Chen, F.Costa, Miranda from the ALT)
IN: Koellerer, Stoppini, Mankad, Eschauer, Blanco, Sela, VanGemerden, Lorenzi, Sarstrand, Prpic, Roitman, Todero, A.Hernandez, Dell'Acqua, Vico, Golmard, DeChaunac
NEXT: Mlynarik, Vemic, OpeDerHeijde, Mergea, Moraru, Fraile, Roger-Vesselin, Logtens, Knowle, Prodon, Moyano, Wauters, Chadaj

Sanchez made the Main draw, as Calleri withdrew.

That may be the last official update ...

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Postby BelgiumDude » Mon May 16, 2005 12:23 pm

Thanks for the updates Jay!
Since Tsonga got the last wild card, he should be out of the qualies, so Mlynarik should be in.
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Postby PatatRiek » Mon May 16, 2005 12:27 pm

thanks for the updates Jay

the quallie draw is out :

http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/score ... index.html

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Postby smucav » Mon May 16, 2005 12:38 pm

BelgiumDude wrote:Thanks for the updates Jay!
Since Tsonga got the last wild card, he should be out of the qualies, so Mlynarik should be in.
Patience also got a MD WC, so Vemic is in.
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Postby EMiLY » Tue May 17, 2005 7:36 am

yay that's good news for Olivier Patience! :)
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Postby skipper » Wed May 18, 2005 12:49 pm

any update on doubles list? is there a qualifier for doubles? thnx
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Wed May 18, 2005 1:46 pm

There is no qualifying in doubles. No early entry list either. The top players show up and sign in for the main draw over the weekend (by monday or so). The draw should be out early next week.

It is a crime that they do not do qualies at three of the grand slams for doubles (ONLY Wimbledon still does it), not to mention ATP not allowing at ALL the ATP events. The top-75 club in doubles does not want anybody to move into their exclusive club. It is just not possible to do it anymore it seems, barring help from wildcards or help from top doubles players who pick you up and groom you. Moving up from about 125 to inside 75 is virtually impossible to do now on the ATP tour in doubles.

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Postby Tennis724 » Wed May 18, 2005 2:08 pm

Thanks for that explanation, Jay. Helps to explain why the 50 or so has remained the same for so long.
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Postby Guest » Wed May 18, 2005 3:27 pm

I think the whole doubles thing stinks! Personally I hate watching singles players trying to pretend to play doubles - they really don't like it, aren't a team, & are forced into it. True doubles teams are awesome to watch. There should be some way to promote it better - aren't there any rich old people out there who could lend a hand to promoting it better than the ATP (who basically does everything to kill it)?
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