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Postby Steve G » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:28 am

Well it's that time of year again. Time to discuss who we would like to see on the 2009 version of the Young Guns list.

A reminder, tier I is pretty much set. It's all those who were in tier II this year minus anyone who was born in 1988. The only one who falls into that category is Dusan Lojda.

So the discussion is for the newbies for tier II. (A reminder: the tiers don't represent level of ability, simply the years they have been on the list: tier II is for those who are in their first year, tier I is for the second...the maximum is 2 years).

Those eligible are players born in 1989 or later.

Discuss...
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby dyrak » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:47 am

Hmm..

I would suggest Henri Kontinen, Grigor Dimitrov and Tsung Hua-Yang.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby dyrak » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:49 am

And maybe Bernard Tomic (he is though very young..)
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby Maciej » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:38 am

Janowicz, Dimitrov, Pella, Bagnis.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby shotgun » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:04 pm

Out of the 1989 bunch, I think Brydan Klein (AUS) would be a good choice. He was born in December and already ranked at #256, which is higher than McClune, Klizan, Jones and Gojowczyk all are at the moment. He was also AO junior champ last year.

Jerzy Janowicz (POL) should definitely be in, b. Nov-1990, ranked inside the top 350 already with wins over experienced players such as Mahut, Mirnyi and Vanek.

There are also two Russians born in 1990 who seem to have a lot of potential. Ilya Belyaev is the only one his age inside the top 400 apart from Janowicz and Eysseric. Evgeny Donskoy is inside the top 500 with wins over Galvani, Korolev, Economidis and Udomchoke.

From the 1991 bunch the most promising so far is Grigor Dimitrov (BUL), the only one his year inside the top 500, with good results in the strong Spanish futures circuit, and Wimbledon and USO junior titles.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby holland » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:27 am

Jerzy Janowicz, 13-Nov-90. Already reached the semifinal of a Polish challenger.

Grigor Dimitrov, 6-May-91. Won juniors Wimbledon, US Open. Reached quarterfinals of juniors Roland Garros. Won 3 Spanish futures. However, made big losses in Challenger circuit.

Bernard Tomic, 21-Oct-92. Very young, but already with very big professional sponsorcontracts. Reached the final of a future in Indonesia.

Filip Krajinovic, 27-Feb-92. Reached the semifinal of Wimbledon (as a qualifier) and juniors US Open. Reached semifinal of the challenger in Knoxville (def. Robert Kendrick in first round)
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby tgcarracho » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:08 pm

I would include three guys who got hot this year, completely under the radar:

Roman Jebavy, (16 Nov 1989), from the Czech republic, just completed his first year as a pro and is already number 427, winning one future and being a finalist in two others. Finished better than big prospects, like Berankis. I saw this guy playing here in Brazil at the Gerdau Cup Juniors, he was the number 1 seed and lost in second round...I didn't thought he would be good, but he proved me wrong.

Marcelo Demoliner, (18 Jan 1989), from Brazil, is number 429, and I don't think that he had a good junior career. But he won two futures in Brazil and was a semifinalist in five others. He is also a strong doubles players, having won 5 finals out of 8 in futures.

David Goffin, from Belgium, is also having a good first pro year. He wasn't that good in juniors, but has already won a future title, was a finalist in other and has 3 more semifinals to his name. Plus, he just completed 18 years in Dec 7.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby werbatim » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:35 am

I have nothing new to say
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby EddieV » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:19 am

Good list so far. Some suggestions:
Jiri Kosler (CZE)
Andrej Martin (SVK)
Petru-Alexandru Lunacanu (ROU)
Marius Copil (ROU)
Thomas Fabbiano (ITA)
Daniel Lopez (ITA)
Daniel Evans (GBR)
German Gigounon (BEL)
Thomas Schoorel (NED)
Peter Gojowczyk (GER)
Nicolas Reissig (AUT)
Gerald Melzer (AUT)
Marton Fucsovics (HUN)
Andrei Karatchenia (BLR)
Inigo Cervantes-Huegun (ESP)
João Sousa (POR)
Ilija Martinoski (MKD)
Guido Pella (ARG)
Marco Trungelliti (ARG)
Henrique Cunha (BRA)
Fernando Romboli (BRA)
Rafael Garcia (BRA)
Alejandro Gonzalez (COL)
Luis David Martinez (VEN)
Jose Hernandez(DOM)
Dane Proppogia (AUS)
Jun Mitsuhashi (JAP)
Hiroki Moriya (JAP)
Ryan Harrison (USA)
Alexander Domijan (USA)
Duncan Mugabe (UGA)
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby anttik » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:10 am

My Young Guns 2009 candidates are:

Must Young Guns 2009
Grigor Dimitrov (BUL) 493 (1991)
Evgeny Donskoy (RUS) 473 (1990)
Jerzy Janowicz (POL) 338 (1990)
Filip Krajinovic (SRB) 589 (1992)
Bernard Tomic (AUS) 774 (1992)

Good Young Guns 2009
Brydan Klein (AUS) 250 (1989)
Roman Jebavy (CZE) 427 (1989)
Ilya Belyaev (RUS) 398 (1990)
Guido Pella (ARG) 546 (1990)
Tsung-Hua Yang (TPE) 551 (1991)
Ryan Harrison (USA) 744 (1992)
Daniel Evans (GBR) 479 (1990)
Ryan Harrison (USA) 744 (1992)

Special Young Guns 2009
Yuki Bhambri (IND) 1153 (1992)
- ITF2 junior ranking; Orange Bowl winner 2009
Henri Kontinen (FIN) 1822 (1990)
- ITF5 junior ranking; Wimbledon junior finalist 2009
French Open and USOpen junior doubles winner 2009
- now injured but will start to play men's tournaments soon
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby anttik » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:20 am

anttik wrote:My Young Guns 2009 candidates are:

...

Good Young Guns 2009
...
Ryan Harrison (USA) 744 (1992)
Daniel Evans (GBR) 479 (1990)
Ryan Harrison (USA) 744 (1992)
...


Well maybe one Ryan Harrison is enough ;)
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby anttik » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:30 am

To new tier I it's not necessary to include Michael McClune, Martin Klizan and Greg Jones who have not improve their rankings during 2008.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby EddieV » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:34 pm

Klizan have been injured, didn't play from June to October and it seems he is still fighting against injury, since he retired in his last match. Anyway, I was expecting more from him when he was fit.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby alessandro_motta » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:02 am

Marcus Daniell (NZL) 09/11/1989
current ranking 818

Giacomo Miccini (ITA) 05/07/1992
current ranking 1868
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby Ariel_F » Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:58 am

My choice for 2009 in alphabetical order:

Bhambri, Yuki
Britton, Devin
Dimitrov, Grigor
Domijan, Alexander
Donskoy, Evgeny
Goffin, David
Harrison, Ryan
Miccini, Giacomo
Krajinovic, Filip
Kuznetsov, Andrey
Tomic, Bernard
Trungelliti, Marco
Yang, Tsung-Hua

From Tier I i would also exclude the players with no significant progress during 2008 (Jones, Klizan, McClune).
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby bsuk20 » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:03 am

My list (and some Tier II arguments) for 2009 is:

Tier I
Nishikori, Kei JPN 1989
Berankis, Ricardas LTU 1990
Elias, Gastao POR 1990
Eysseric, Jonathan FRA 1990
Gojowczyk, Peter GER 1989
Ignatik, Vladimir BLR 1990
Jones, Greg AUS 1989
Klizan, Martin SVK 1989
McClune, Michael USA 1989
Klain, Brydan AUS 1989

Tier II
Yang, Tsung-Hua TPE 1991 (ITF Top 10 and GS Finalist)
Dimitrov, Grogor BUL 1991 (ITF Top 10 and GS Finalist)
Tomic, Bernard AUS 1992 (ITF Top 10 and GS Finalist)
Kontinen, Henri FIN 1990 (ITF Top 10 and GS Finalist)
Janowicz, Jerzy POL 1990 (ATP rank 344 and GS Finalist)
Belyaev, Ilya RUS 1990 (ATP rank 400)
Evans, Daniel GB 1990 (ATP rank 477)
Donskoy, Evgeny RUS 1990 (ATP rank 513)
Pella, Guido ARG 1990 (ATP rank 515)
Krajinovic, Filip SRB 1992 (ATP rank 590)
Bhambri, Goffin, Harrison (maybe next year??)
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby mgorganchian » Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:29 am

I vote for Guido Pella. During 2008 year he played both as junior and futures and some challengers. In jr. he won the Bonfiglio cup and was RG SF (from qualies). He also won his first challenger match. One important thing to mention is that he did not received any wc thorugh all the year as he is against the AAT.
As next year he will stop playing junior tournaments it is very probable that he will improve his ranking much more.

Another good Arg player to consider is 1991 Nicolas Pastor but in my opinion the one that is more promissing is 1992 Agustion Vellotti but he is not playing too many pro tournaments.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby slopes » Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:44 am

i think one player that hasnt rated a mention at all and should be considered is john millman. he has moved 898 spots up the atp rankings in a year from 1461 to 563. he is born in 89 and is his first full year on the tour. prior to this he had only played 4 main draw futures singles matches for 1 win and a limited itf junior schedule of 14 events in 4 years. till this year he had never played an event on any surface other than hardcourt. although he does have a win under his belt over richardis berankis in the 2007 optus nottinghill ( oz open juniors lead in event ). he has produced some decent results in the last 3 months on the australian futures circuit winning his first title in this time. he is improving year after year and looks to have a good future in the game
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby Steve G » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:10 am

Ok, thanks for all your input. Looks like we have a consensus on the following:

Grigor Dimitrov
Jerzy Janowicz
Guido Pella
Ilya Belyaev
Tsung-Hua Yang
Henri Kontinen
Evgeny Donskoy

Also lots of votes for 92s Filip Krajinovic and Bernard Tomic. But I think we'll give them and other 92s like Bhambri and Miccini another year. I'm also inclined to add Brydan Klein. I think Lopez would be a good choice too among the 89s. That gives us 9 with an option to add one more. I'd have no problem making a change or two in the first month. I think we can add one more given Klein and Lopez will only be there for one year. :)
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby Steve G » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:39 am

And our Tier I's are off to a stellar 0-4 start to 2009. :lol:

I agree that Jones and McClune had disappointing 2008 years but at least they had winning records. ;) We'll give them another chance for 2009. Same with Klizan who has been fighting injury. Hopefully he can be healthy this year.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby anttik » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:52 pm

Very good choices for new Young Guns. I think also that 1992 born players "can wait" one year more and show their capabilities.
Henri Kontinen is back on court at last and could start his tennis training. It takes at least some weeks before he can play in tournaments.

No US-players in new Young Guns??? Should be at least one I think - but who?
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby holland » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:26 am

Tomic wins from Starace in the first round of the AO. =D>
Krajinovic qualifies for another challenger.

I don't see any reasons why not to add these players to the young guns. (both '92 players have a better ranking than '89-er Lopez after this week)
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby Steve G » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:40 am

anttik wrote:Very good choices for new Young Guns. I think also that 1992 born players "can wait" one year more and show their capabilities.
Henri Kontinen is back on court at last and could start his tennis training. It takes at least some weeks before he can play in tournaments.

No US-players in new Young Guns??? Should be at least one I think - but who?

Yes, was just thinking that. We have room for one more and I am strongly considering Rhyne Williams (1991). He's off to a good start, too.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby anttik » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:09 am

Yes. I have same opinion. Tomic, Krajinovic and Williams all are more interesting players to follow than Lopez.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby Not_Guga » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:31 am

I wouldn't expect much from Harrison this year. He hurt his back/neck this fall and was in a brace for awhile. He will be good in the future.

One guy not mentioned who I think has some potential is GARANGANGA, Takanyi (ZIM). He's only 18 and hasn't had great results, but I saw him play Kontinen at the Open juniors and he has some talent.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby ivankg » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:07 am

holland wrote:Tomic wins from Starace in the first round of the AO. =D>
Krajinovic qualifies for another challenger.

I don't see any reasons why not to add these players to the young guns. (both '92 players have a better ranking than '89-er Lopez after this week)


I completely agree. If they continue to play this year like thay have started, both will probably enter top 200 by the end of year.
After that there will be no need to track their results in young guns section. They will be all over the place.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby anttik » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:15 am

Young Gun 2009 candidate Henri Kontinen plans at last start his season in Croatia F2 Future in Zagreb starting 16 Feb 2009.

Henri has 3 Junior Exempts to $15K future main draws in 2009. So he probably will use first JE in Croatia.
The following weekend Henri plans to play in Wolsburg challenger quallies.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby EddieV » Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:28 pm

Young Guns 2009

after June 15

Tier I (2008 end - June 2009)
Berankis 455-484
Elias 578 - 612
Eysseric 361 - 411
Gojowczyk 346 - 407
Ignatik 433 - 474
Jones 434 - 363
Klizan 606 - 455
McClune 450 - 504

Tier II (2008 end - June 2009)

Belyaev 399 - 327
Dimitrov 493 - 341
Donskiy 514 - 450
Janowicz 339 - 297
Klein 251 - 184
Kontinen 1823 - 1315
Lopez 591 - 567
Pella 516 - 402
Williams 971 - 874
Yang 550 - 467

Young Guns 2009 have been quite disappointing so far :(
Or am I too demanding? :P
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby ivankg » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:30 am

It will be intesresting to see at CH San Sebastian, a duel between YG Tier I player J.Eysseric against "to young for Tier II this year" F.Krajinovic.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby ivankg » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:39 am

Interesting to see this week rankings for two very young guns: Tomic 318, Krajinovic 319.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby ashdcnueve » Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:05 am

for this one, i prefer Henri Kontinen and Grigor Dimitrov...

the most promising players and got a great performance so far for me...
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby dawsonamelia5 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:01 pm

Henri Kontinen are so good! I really like his performances and he is so good no doubt about it! =D>

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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby sandyrochard » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:31 am

Hi Everyone,
I am Sandy Rochard well according to me the name are not new to you,but thoughts that these names should be there.Here name are Anowicz, Dimitrov, Pella, Bagnis,Krajinovic etc the last name respectively is my favourite.If you have any other information please post me.
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby jeanjones » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:01 pm

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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby deepshiikha » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:22 pm

erzy Janowicz, 13-Nov-90. Already reached the semifinal of a Polish challenger.

Grigor Dimitrov, 6-May-91. Won juniors Wimbledon, US Open. Reached quarterfinals of juniors Roland Garros. Won 3 Spanish futures. However, made big losses in Challenger circuit.

Bernard Tomic, 21-Oct-92. Very young, but already with very big professional sponsorcontracts. Reached the final of a future in Indonesia.

Filip Krajinovic, 27-Feb-92. Reached the semifinal of Wimbledon (as a qualifier) and juniors US Open. Reached semifinal of the challenger in Knoxville
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby basujanm2310 » Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:54 pm

I can give you some suggestion in this case as I know...........
They are below.....
Daniel Lopez (ITA)
Daniel Evans (GBR)
German Gigounon (BEL)
Thomas Schoorel (NED)
Peter Gojowczyk (GER)
Nicolas Reissig (AUT)
Gerald Melzer (AUT)
Marton Fucsovics (HUN)
How about they !!!!!!!


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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby raahaat7 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:50 am

is GERALD MELZER any relative of JURJEN MELZAR?
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Re: Young Guns 2009

Postby EddieV » Wed May 12, 2010 1:55 pm

raahaat7 wrote:is GERALD MELZER any relative of JURJEN MELZAR?


Yes, he is his brother.
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