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week |19| Challengers : Prague, San Remo, Forest Hills

Postby BelgiumDude » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:20 am

Prague 2 WD's
1 Zib, Tomas CZE 62
2 Hernych, Jan CZE 79
3 Wessels, Peter NED 80
4 Schalken, Sjeng NED 87
5 Vanek, Jiri CZE 90
6 Tipsarevic, Janko SCG 91
7 Vliegen, Kristof BEL 93
8 Baghdatis, Marcos CYP 96
9 Benneteau, Julien FRA 101
10 Draper, Scott AUS @102
11 Tabara, Michal CZE 103
12 Sluiter, Raemon NED 104
13 Monfils, Gael FRA 107
14 Minar, Ivo CZE 109
15 Ulihrach, Bohdan CZE 111 : replaced by (LL) Serra, Florent FRA
16 Saretta, Flavio BRA 112
17 Dupuis, Antony FRA 115
18 Di Mauro, Alessio ITA 116
19 Lapentti, Giovanni ECU 120
20 Nieminen, Jarkko FIN 121
21 Mahut, Nicolas FRA 123
22 Falla, Alejandro COL @124
23 (SE) Devilder, Nicolas FRA
24 (SE) Dlouhy, Lukas CZE
25 (WC) Lojda, Dusan CZE
26 (WC) Kosler, Jiri CZE
27 (WC) Vejmelka, Adam CZE
28 (WC) Zeman, Filip CZE
29 (Q) Portas, Albert ESP
30 (Q) Blanco, Galo ESP
31 (Q) Mertl, Jan CZE
32 (Q) Vik, Robin CZE

Alternates
IN Luczak, Peter AUS 131
IN Norman, Dick BEL 132

San Remo 3 WD's + 2
1 Haehnel, Jerome FRA 89
2 Mutis, Olivier FRA 128
3 Bracciali, Daniele ITA 133
4 van Scheppingen, Dennis NED 141
5 Aldi, Francesco ITA 142
6 Gicquel, Marc FRA 143
7 Patience, Olivier FRA 144
8 Tursunov, Dmitry RUS 147
9 Ryderstedt, Michael SWE 148
10 Garcia, Adrian CHI 150
11 Djokovic, Novak SCG 153
12 Sa, Andre BRA 162
13 Navarro Pastor, Ivan ESP 164
14 Labadze, Irakli GEO 167
15 Karanusic, Roko CRO 169
16 Tenconi, Tomas ITA 170
17 Delgado, Ramon PAR 173
18 Kratochvil, Michel SUI 177
19 Bogdanovic, Alex GBR 179
20 Elsner, Daniel GER 182
21 Luzzi, Federico ITA 190
22 Snobel, Pavel CZE 191
23 (SE)
24 (SE)
25 (WC) Fognini, Fabio ITA
26 (WC) Matschke, Jochen GER
27 (WC) Lownsbrough, Adam GBR
28 (WC) Schmid, Victor GER
29 (Q) Marin, Juan Antonio CRC
30 (Q) Scherrer, Jean-Claude SUI
31 (Q) Dell'Acqua, Massimo ITA
32 (Q) Stoppini, Andrea ITA

Alternates
IN Ionita, Victor ROM 192
IN Schukin, Yuri RUS 198
IN Marach, Oliver AUT 200
IN Greul, Simon GER 203
OUT Ferreiro, Franco BRA 204
OUT Devilder, Nicolas FRA 205
OUT Gimeno-Traver, Daniel ESP 207
IN Azzaro, Leonardo ITA 209

Forest Hills 8 WD's + 2
1 Morrison, Jeff USA 94
2 Gimelstob, Justin USA 118
3 Gambill, Jan-Michael USA 124
4 Sabau, Razvan ROM 155
5 Armando, Hugo USA 159
6 Delic, Amer USA 160
7 Brzezicki, Juan Pablo ARG 171
8 Guzman, Juan-Pablo ARG 175
9 Reynolds, Bobby USA 181
10 Philippoussis, Mark AUS 185
11 Berlocq, Carlos ARG 186
12 Vahaly, Brian USA 188
13 Salzenstein, Jeff USA 193
14 Kendrick, Robert USA 194
15 Baker, Brian USA 195
16 Gallardo Valles, Miguel MEX 208
17 Blake, James USA 210
18 Reid, Todd AUS 214
19 Villagran, Cristian ARG 223
20 Gabashvili, Teimuraz RUS 237
21 Mamiit, Cecil USA 243
22 Mazarakis, Vasilis GRE 245
23 (SE)
24 (SE)
25 (WC) Joseph, Lesley USA
26 (WC) Odesnik, Wayne USA
27 (WC) Blake, Thomas USA
28 (WC) Lipsky, Scott USA
29 (Q) Bogomolov Jr., Alex USA
30 (Q) Adaktusson, Jacob SWE
31 (Q) Alvarez, Diego ITA
32 (Q) Abel, Maximilian GER

Alternates
IN Boeker, Matias USA 246
IN Russell, Michael USA 247
OUT Alves, Thiago BRA 251
OUT Hernandez, Alejandro MEX 252
IN Todero, Nicolas ARG 254
IN Mlynarik, Zbynek AUT 265
IN Vemic, Dusan SCG 268
IN Op der Heijde, Melvyn NED 271
OUT Miranda, Ivan PER 277
OUT Chadaj, Adam POL 285
OUT Pashanski, Boris SCG 292
OUT Capdeville, Paul CHI 295
IN Uebel, Lars GER 306
IN Healey, Nathan AUS 308
OUT Kralert, Petr CZE 310
OUT Echagaray, Bruno MEX 311
IN Gonzalez, Santiago MEX 312
IN Ram, Rajeev USA 313
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Postby seb » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:40 am

Thanks BD.

I am starting to think there is something wrong with Jerome Haehnel.

The guy was fighting since 1998 at Future level and broke trough last year, winning Metz ATP and reaching ATP#80. And now that he has the opprtunity to play at ATP level, he prefers to go to a 25k+h in Italy instead of entering Hamburg qualies. He already renounced to play Indian Wells, Miami (he was DA) and Barcelona (would have been DA).

He should keep 25k challengers for time he will be out of top 200...

His fear of flying doesn't explain everything...

He was also thinking about retiring the week before his success in Metz, even if he had played his best season so far in 2004.

A very strange case.
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Postby Elina » Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:16 am

I'm also wondering what Haehnel is thinking with all these small tourneys. He doesn't even do well in those (at least not this year). He did play in Barcelona but lost easily in the first round. For next week he's on the alternate lists of both Munich and Estoril so I really hope he goes to either tourney. :roll:
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Postby pozaking » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:54 pm

Hey BD in Forest Hills, Santiago Gonzalez or Bruno Echagaray are in the alternate list???
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Postby Tennis724 » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:41 pm

Thanks, BD.

Now I have to hope for 12 people to pull out of Prague so that Alex won't have to qualify somewhere where he has SF points to defend :(
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Postby ToniX » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:45 pm

Hey BD :D there´s any chilean in the alternate list.....
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Postby Reeco » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:39 am

Jerome Haehnel is just back from an injury, he is fighting to reach back is level from last year end season (Metz, Basel...)

Don't Care about the way he organize his programm, he enterred this challenger, in order to play some matches in a row, and confidence before going to RG... I am sure you are going to see him more and more at atp level tournament
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Postby BelgiumDude » Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:54 am

pozaking wrote:Hey BD in Forest Hills, Santiago Gonzalez or Bruno Echagaray are in the alternate list???


Mexicans in Forest Hills
MD Gallardo Valles, Miguel
ALT 4 Hernandez, Alejandro
ALT 16 Echagaray, Bruno
ALT 17 Gonzalez, Santiago
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Postby BelgiumDude » Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:57 am

ToniX wrote:Hey BD :D there´s any chilean in the alternate list.....


No, only Paul Capdeville, who alternate 12 in Forest Hills.
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Postby Andrew_Derer » Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:10 am

Pleeeeeeeeeas Scotty Draper dont withdraw!!!!!! :S
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Postby ToniX » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:04 pm

BelgiumDude wrote:
ToniX wrote:Hey BD :D there´s any chilean in the alternate list.....


No, only Paul Capdeville, who alternate 12 in Forest Hills.


tHANKS.... ;)
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Postby bass » Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:49 pm

Hi BD
Is Nicolas Coutelot in Prague or San Remo in the alternate list?
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Postby pozaking » Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:44 pm

Jay I know it´s too early but are there any withdrawals??? :)
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Mon May 02, 2005 11:53 pm

Quick updates:

Prague -- Arazi OUT from the ALT. No other withdrawals.

San Remo -- no withdrawals from Main or ALT.

Forest Hills -- Philippoussis OUT. Boeker IN

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Postby Fee » Tue May 03, 2005 11:12 am

Hey Jay,
Can you let me know when Jan-Mike pulls from Forest Hills, as I am sure he will? I think he's done playing on clay this year. Thanks.
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Wed May 04, 2005 12:07 am

Jan-Mike hasn't pulled out from FH yet :)

Update:

No change from above, at the three challengers ...

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Wed May 04, 2005 12:17 pm

Update:

No change from above, at the three challengers ... Not moving just yet!

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Postby Tennis724 » Wed May 04, 2005 1:01 pm

I'm in the dark for the most part but I expect to be seeing Alex qualifying in FH rather than in Prague.
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Postby Guest » Thu May 05, 2005 5:59 am

Well, Haehnel is having a poor season and the possibility remains high that if he entered Hamburg he would have lost in the qualifying rounds. But yes he seems to hate playing around the globe. Mutis is also like that but this year he is playing very badly.
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Thu May 05, 2005 8:24 am

Update:

No changes in the challenger lists still. Only Arazi out from ALT at Prague and Scud out from main at Forest Hills.

Something will hopefully start moving today, I suppose!

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Postby Fee » Thu May 05, 2005 10:48 am

Should do, there's one coming off Forest Hills for sure ;)
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Thu May 05, 2005 2:41 pm

Good call, Fiona!

Updates:

Prague (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Arazi from ALT
No other change

Forest Hills (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Belocq, Gambill, Morrison, Philippoussis, Salzenstein, Villagran (and A.Hernandez, Miranda, Chadaj, Capdeville from ALT)
IN: Boker, Russell, Alves, Todero, Mlynarik, Vemic
NEXT: OpDerHeijde, Pashanski, Uebel, Healey, Kralert, Echegaray, S.Gonzalez, R.Ram, Cerovic, Adaktusson

San Remo (2 SE spots to be cleared)
No withdrawals from MAIN or ALT.

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Postby Fee » Thu May 05, 2005 3:42 pm

Well, even though I guessed last week that he would pull, he didn't confirm it until today. I only get half credit :D Thanks for the updates Jay, as always.
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Postby Tennis724 » Thu May 05, 2005 5:32 pm

OK, so is it a reqirement to pull out of a tournament as an alternate before you can sign in to Quallies of one where you are no where on the Entry List?

Obviously, this question is regarding one person but also for future reference. I've been banging my head against the wall for so long it's numb :x .

Any help would be appreciated.
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Thu May 05, 2005 6:14 pm

You don't have to be in the entry list at all at one place to play the qualies, and you can do that even if you are in the list at another place.

In fact, you could be in the qualies list at one place, even make the main draw in the end, be unable to travel there (because you didn't expect the cut to fall that much on the last couple of days), and end up being stuck at another place playing qualies even though you hadn't even entered there at first. I have seen that happen too.

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Postby Tennis724 » Thu May 05, 2005 8:29 pm

Thanks, Jay :)

I'm fully expecting Alex to be in Quallies in Forest Hills. I don't know how long a flight would take to Prague to even make sense to be there to sign in for Quallies.
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Thu May 05, 2005 10:49 pm

Updates:

Prague (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Arazi from ALT. No other change

Forest Hills (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Belocq, Gambill, Morrison, Philippoussis, Salzenstein, Villagran (and Alves, A.Hernandez, Miranda, Chadaj, Capdeville from ALT)
IN: Boker, Russell, Todero, Mlynarik, Vemic, OpDerHeijde
NEXT: Pashanski, Uebel, Healey, Kralert, Echegaray, S.Gonzalez, R.Ram, Cerovic, Adaktusson, Zovko

San Remo (2 SE spots to be cleared)
Still No withdrawals from MAIN or ALT

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Postby Andrew_Derer » Thu May 05, 2005 11:43 pm

Wow so Scotty Draper is still entered in Prague and hasnt withdrawn yay! go Scott
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Postby Tennis724 » Fri May 06, 2005 12:50 am

I looked on the site and saw that Quallie sign-in for Prague is Saturday. And I got word that Alex is headed over to Prague. Still doesn't make perfect sense but what does?
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Fri May 06, 2005 7:42 am

Yes, the Prague qualies sign-in is on Saturday. San Remo sign-in is today, in the next few hours.

Update: No change from above! ..

Quite surprised that San Remo list has not budged one bit yet.

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Postby nitsansh » Fri May 06, 2005 9:06 am

R. Jayakrishnan wrote:In fact, you could be in the qualies list at one place, even make the main draw in the end, be unable to travel there (because you didn't expect the cut to fall that much on the last couple of days), and end up being stuck at another place playing qualies even though you hadn't even entered there at first. I have seen that happen too.

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Even worse... you can withdraw from one tournament where you would have eventually got into the main draw, go to another tourney to play qualifying and not even get in!!!
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Fri May 06, 2005 9:45 am

Even worse... you can withdraw from one tournament where you would have eventually got into the main draw, go to another tourney to play qualifying and not even get in!!!


Yes, of course :) .. This happened to Luczak 5 weeks back, when he made the Valencia cut which dropped like a rock on the last day .. he thought he had a better chance at Casablanca which was dropping earlier .. Went there and it was too late to make travel plans to Valencia (I don't know why; He only had to get there by early next week -- may be he didn't know or something) .. Was the top seed and had to play qualies at Casablanca .. He lost 6-4 in the 3rd set of the final qualifying match against Mertinak who then drew a qualifier in the first round to add insult to injury .. Luczak must have waited for two days for a lucky loser spot, and that too did not come through .. The poor guy lost a whole week for nothing!

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Postby Eric49 » Fri May 06, 2005 10:25 am

When will the San Remo quallie draw be available? Forrest Hills and Prague are available tommorow I suppose.....
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Fri May 06, 2005 10:25 am

Updates:

Prague (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Schalken, Tipsarevic (and Arazi from ALT)
IN: Luczak, Norman
NEXT: Ramirez-Hidalgo, Serra, Corretja, N.Lapentti, Tsonga, Bastl, Chiudinelli, Okun

Forest Hills (2 SE spots CLEARED)
OUT: Berlocq, Gambill, Morrison, Philippoussis, Sabau, Salzenstein, Villagran (and Alves, A.Hernandez, Miranda, Chadaj, Pashanski, Capdeville from ALT)
IN: Boeker, Russell, Todero, Mlynarik, Vemic, OpDerHeijde, Uebel, Healey, Kralert
NEXT: Echegaray, S.Gonzalez, R.Ram, Cerovic, Adaktusson, Zovko, Fruttero, Sugiyama, Widom, Scherrer

San Remo (2 SE spots CLEARED)
OUT: Kratochvil, Luzzi, Sa (and Ferreiro, Devilder, Gimeno-TRaver, DiPasquale, Qureshi from ALT)
IN: Ionita, Schukin, Marach, Greul, Azzaro
NEXT: M.Daniel, Marin, Motomura, Kubot, Faurel, Tuksar, Andersen, Stakhovsky, Pequery Svarc

So San Remo suddenly moved a lot in the last minute .... Perhaps ATP waited a bit to update that one?

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Postby PatatRiek » Fri May 06, 2005 10:52 am

R. Jayakrishnan wrote:So San Remo suddenly moved a lot in the last minute .... Perhaps ATP waited a bit to update that one?


yeah :x let us hope they informed the players before you & me

anyway Jay, thanks for the updates!!!

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Postby pozaking » Fri May 06, 2005 10:56 am

I have a question. If Bruno Echagaray get in at Forest Hills he can play there or he has to withdraw because he is the top seed in USA F10???
I know it´s a stupid question but I want to know. :)
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Postby Eric49 » Fri May 06, 2005 11:22 am

Does anybody know why Schalken is out of the Prague challenger?
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Postby PatatRiek » Fri May 06, 2005 11:23 am

pozaking wrote:I have a question. If Bruno Echagaray get in at Forest Hills he can play there or he has to withdraw because he is the top seed in USA F10???
I know it´s a stupid question but I want to know. :)


he has to play the futures tournament if he was in the original entry list , and since he top seed that is probably the case

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Postby pozaking » Fri May 06, 2005 12:20 pm

PatatRiek wrote:
pozaking wrote:I have a question. If Bruno Echagaray get in at Forest Hills he can play there or he has to withdraw because he is the top seed in USA F10???
I know it´s a stupid question but I want to know. :)


he has to play the futures tournament if he was in the original entry list , and since he top seed that is probably the case

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Fri May 06, 2005 1:16 pm

Updates:

Prague (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Schalken, Tipsarevic (and Arazi from ALT)
IN: Luczak, Norman
NEXT: Ramirez-Hidalgo, Serra, Corretja, N.Lapentti, Tsonga, Bastl, Chiudinelli, Okun

Forest Hills (2 SE spots CLEARED)
OUT: Berlocq, Gambill, Morrison, Philippoussis, Reid, Sabau, Salzenstein, Villagran (and Alves, A.Hernandez, Miranda, Chadaj, Pashanski, Capdeville, Kralert, B.Echegaray from ALT)
IN: Boeker, Russell, Todero, Mlynarik, Vemic, OpDerHeijde, Uebel, Healey, S.Gonzalez, R.Ram
NEXT: Cerovic, Adaktusson, Zovko, Fruttero, Sugiyama, Widom, Scherrer, Odesnik

San Remo (2 SE spots CLEARED)
OUT: Kratochvil, Luzzi, Sa (and Ferreiro, Devilder, Gimeno-TRaver, DiPasquale, Qureshi from ALT)
IN: Ionita, Schukin, Marach, Greul, Azzaro
NEXT: M.Daniel, Marin, Motomura, Kubot, Faurel, Tuksar, Andersen, Stakhovsky, Pequery Svarc

I think that would be the official final list for San Remo with one or two last minute changes possible at the ATP supervisor's offcie on site.

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Fri May 06, 2005 1:21 pm

Links to the pages where ATP will be poosting the draws:

Prague Q - http://www.atptennis.com/posting/2005/600/qs.pdf (comes out tomorrow)

Forest Hills Q - http://www.atptennis.com/posting/2005/1723/qs.pdf

San Remo Q - http://www.atptennis.com/posting/2005/284/qs.pdf

As for the main draws, Prague will be made on Sunday 2pm, Forest Hills on Saturday (time TBD), and San Remo on Saturday (time TBD). Links -

Prague Main - http://www.atptennis.com/posting/2005/600/mds.pdf (comes out tomorrow)

Forest Hills Main - http://www.atptennis.com/posting/2005/1723/mds.pdf

San Remo Main - http://www.atptennis.com/posting/2005/284/mds.pdf

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Postby nitsansh » Fri May 06, 2005 2:24 pm

R. Jayakrishnan wrote:
Even worse... you can withdraw from one tournament where you would have eventually got into the main draw, go to another tourney to play qualifying and not even get in!!!


Yes, of course :) .. This happened to Luczak 5 weeks back, when he made the Valencia cut which dropped like a rock on the last day .. he thought he had a better chance at Casablanca which was dropping earlier .. Went there and it was too late to make travel plans to Valencia (I don't know why; He only had to get there by early next week -- may be he didn't know or something) .. Was the top seed and had to play qualies at Casablanca .. He lost 6-4 in the 3rd set of the final qualifying match against Mertinak who then drew a qualifier in the first round to add insult to injury .. Luczak must have waited for two days for a lucky loser spot, and that too did not come through .. The poor guy lost a whole week for nothing!

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I meant not get in to qualifying!! Sometimes the cut off for qualies in one tournament is higher than MD in another tourney!
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Sat May 07, 2005 7:04 am

Prague Update:

No change from yesterday (above) ... Qualifying sign-in closes at 9 pm today (saturday)...

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Postby Mel » Sat May 07, 2005 7:37 am

any idea about the wild-cards for San Remo?

while I'm here - tHks everyone for the entry lists, updates etc... this is an awesome help!
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Sat May 07, 2005 7:50 am

By the way, we may not get any updates on the withdrawals in the Prague list, as I suspect that all of that will be handled by the site supervisor and not by ATP office .. We may have to wait till the qualifying draw comes out, to see who made it in, and then wait till tomorrow to see who all are in the main draw ..

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Postby PatatRiek » Sat May 07, 2005 10:45 am

WC's Main Draw Prague go to :

Dusan Lojda
Jiri Kosler
Roman Bicek
Filip Zeman

strange choices if you ask me :o i think Vik deserved one now that he hasn't a SE

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Postby PatatRiek » Sat May 07, 2005 3:06 pm

R. Jayakrishnan wrote: We may have to wait till the qualifying draw comes out, to see who made it in, and then wait till tomorrow to see who all are in the main draw ..


qdraw is out, Serra is 1th seed ... so maybe Ramirez-Hidalgo got in. but that's it ....

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Postby Tennis724 » Sat May 07, 2005 3:52 pm

Well, I was in the dark till the last second. Based on the info I had I didn't even bother to look at the FH quallie draw till I had a study break today because I was only thinking of Prague. Lo and behold :x
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Sat May 07, 2005 4:14 pm

Yeah, why couldn't Alex just enter the event? I suppose he would have preferred Prague and did not want to risk making the draw at FH instead .. No problem though; he got one by and has won a round .. plays pedroso in the final round tomorrow in the final round.

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Sat May 07, 2005 4:14 pm

Yeah, why couldn't Alex just enter the event? I suppose he would have preferred Prague and did not want to risk making the draw at FH instead .. No problem though; he got one bye and has won a round .. plays Pedroso in the final round tomorrow.

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