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Postby BelgiumDude » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:26 am

Monte Carlo 13 WD's
1 Federer, Roger SUI 1
2 Hewitt, Lleyton AUS 2
3 Roddick, Andy USA 3
4 Safin, Marat RUS 4
5 Coria, Guillermo ARG 5
6 Moya, Carlos ESP 6
7 Henman, Tim GBR 7
8 Gaudio, Gaston ARG 8
9 Agassi, Andre USA 9
10 Nalbandian, David ARG 10
11 Johansson, Joachim SWE 11
12 Canas, Guillermo ARG 12
13 Robredo, Tommy ESP 13
14 Ljubicic, Ivan CRO 14
15 Davydenko, Nikolay RUS 15
16 Haas, Tommy GER 16
17 Youzhny, Mikhail RUS 17
18 Spadea, Vincent USA 18
19 Gonzalez, Fernando CHI 19
20 Massu, Nicolas CHI 20
21 Lopez, Feliciano ESP 21
22 Chela, Juan Ignacio ARG 22
23 Ancic, Mario CRO 23
24 Pavel, Andrei ROM 24
25 Johansson, Thomas SWE 25
26 Stepanek, Radek CZE 26
27 Novak, Jiri CZE 27
28 El Aynaoui, Younes MAR @27
29 Grosjean, Sebastien FRA 28
30 Hrbaty, Dominik SVK 29
31 Kiefer, Nicolas GER 30
32 Kuerten, Gustavo BRA @30
33 Nadal, Rafael ESP 31
34 Dent, Taylor USA 32
35 Srichaphan, Paradorn THA 33
36 Melzer, Jurgen AUT 34
37 Malisse, Xavier BEL 35
38 Soderling, Robin SWE 36
39 Verdasco, Fernando ESP 37
40 Mirnyi, Max BLR 38
41 Volandri, Filippo ITA 39
42 Schuettler, Rainer GER 40
43 Rochus, Olivier BEL 41
44 Horna, Luis PER 42
45 Beck, Karol SVK 43
46 Berdych, Tomas CZE 44
47 Verkerk, Martin NED @44
48 Mayer, Florian GER 45
49 Rusedski, Greg GBR 46
50 Andreev, Igor RUS 47
51 Ferrer, David ESP 48
52 Fish, Mardy USA 49
53 (WC) Monfils, Gael FRA
54 (WC) Lisnard, Jean-Rene FRA
55 (WC) Mathieu, Paul-Henri FRA
56 (WC) Ferrero, Juan Carlos ESP
57 (Q) Rochus, Christophe BEL
58 (Q) Hanescu, Victor ROM
59 (Q) Seppi, Andreas ITA
60 (Q) Benneteau, Julien FRA
61 (Q) Ascione, Thierry FRA
62 (Q) Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP
63 (Q) Gasquet, Richard FRA
64 (Q) Mantilla, Felix ESP

Alternates
IN Saulnier, Cyril FRA 50
IN Llodra, Michael FRA 51
IN Zabaleta, Mariano ARG 52
IN Santoro, Fabrice FRA 53
OUT Mello, Ricardo BRA 54
IN Costa, Albert ESP 55
OUT Carlsen, Kenneth DEN 56
IN Martin, Alberto ESP 57
IN Lee, Hyung-Taik KOR 58
IN Calleri, Agustin ARG 59
IN Puerta, Mariano ARG 60
IN Karlovic, Ivo CRO 61
IN Montanes, Albert ESP 62
IN Arthurs, Wayne AUS 63
OUT Kim, Kevin USA 65
IN Starace, Potito ITA 66

Qualifying Monte Carlo 13 WD's
1 Zabaleta, Mariano ARG 52
2 Costa, Albert ESP 56
3 Martin, Alberto ESP 57
4 Karlovic, Ivo CRO 59
5 Puerta, Mariano ARG 60
6 Muller, Gilles LUX 61 : replaced by (ALT) Patience, Olivier FRA
7 Montanes, Albert ESP 62
8 Rochus, Christophe BEL 64
9 Starace, Potito ITA 65
10 Calleri, Agustin ARG 66
11 Kohlschreiber, Philipp GER 67
12 Hernych, Jan CZE 69
13 Acasuso, Jose ARG 71
14 Koubek, Stefan AUT 72
15 Arthurs, Wayne AUS 73
16 Ventura, Santiago ESP 74
17 Mathieu, Paul-Henri FRA 76
18 Calatrava, Alex ESP 78
19 Benneteau, Julien FRA 80
20 Schalken, Sjeng NED 81
21 Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP 82
22 Almagro, Nicolas ESP 83
23 Haehnel, Jerome FRA 86
24 Burgsmuller, Lars GER 87
25 Mantilla, Felix ESP 88
26 Bjorkman, Jonas SWE 90
27 Monaco, Juan ARG 91
28 Hernandez, Oscar ESP 94
29 (WC) Faurel, Jean-Christophe FRA
30 (WC) Balleret, Benjamin FRA
31 (WC) Couillard, Guillaume FRA
32 (WC) Gasquet, Richard FRA

Alternates
IN Sanchez, David ESP 98
OUT Lisnard, Jean-Rene FRA 100
IN Ulihrach, Bohdan CZE 103
IN Hanescu, Victor ROM 104
IN Mutis, Olivier FRA 107
IN Luczak, Peter AUS 110
IN Wawrinka, Stanislas SUI 117
IN Ascione, Thierry FRA 118
IN Simon, Gilles FRA 120
OUT Popp, Alexander GER 121
IN Mahut, Nicolas FRA 122
OUT Clement, Arnaud FRA 124
OUT Monfils, Gael FRA 128
OUT Corretja, Alex ESP 131
IN Arazi, Hicham MAR 132
IN Bracciali, Daniele ITA 133
OUT Lopez, Marc ESP 135
IN Chiudinelli, Marco SUI 142
IN Seppi, Andreas ITA 143
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Postby Guest » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:49 pm

is peter luczak an alternate? :KooKoo:
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Postby BelgiumDude » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:19 am

Anonymous wrote:is peter luczak an alternate? :KooKoo:


Luczak is Alternate No. 63 in Monte Carlo. So he won't make the main draw thanks to some withdrawals. He'll have to enter the qualie-entrylist which comes out in a few weeks time!
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Postby Björki » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:32 am

What about Björkman and Corretja? Are they alternates too? TIA.
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Postby BelgiumDude » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:48 am

Björki wrote:What about Björkman and Corretja? Are they alternates too? TIA.


Björkman No. 41
Corretja No. 74

They will both need to play qualies (if they sign-in!) unless they get a WC.
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Postby EMiLY » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:56 am

:o so Ferrero will also have to qualify unless he gets a WC (which he probably will)
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Postby BelgiumDude » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:32 am

Qualifying List added!
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Postby Björki » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:04 pm

thanks BD :)

where is Ferrero? :shocked:
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Postby nitsansh » Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:31 pm

Is there doubles entry list in this tourney??
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:01 pm

Yes. The doubles entry will come out two weeks before the tournament.

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Postby Bjorkman_Girl » Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:14 am

10. Popp, Alexander GER 121

Is this for real!?
(I'm new to the 'entry list' threads ;) And I'm a big fan of this man, so I'm trying not to get too excited just in case he has to pull out of another event :Dejected:

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:25 am

Here is the direct doubles entry list for the Monte Carlo Masters (the sum of the ranks are at the end of the lines):

Date: 4/11/2005, Cut: 68, Entry System Date: 3/29/2005

1 Mark Knowles (BAH) 1 Daniel Nestor (CAN) 1 2
2 Jonas Bjorkman (SWE) 3 Max Mirnyi (BLR) 9 12
3 Bob Bryan (USA) 6 Mike Bryan (USA) 6 12
4 Leander Paes (IND) 11 Nenad Zimonjic (SCG) 14 25
5 Wayne Arthurs (AUS) 13 Paul Hanley (AUS) 12 25
6 Michael Llodra (FRA) 15 Fabrice Santoro (FRA) 17 32
7 Cyril Suk (CZE) 18 Pavel Vizner (CZE) 24 42
8 Gaston Etlis (ARG) 22 Martin Rodriguez (ARG) 20 42
9 Simon Aspelin (SWE) 23 Todd Perry (AUS) 19 42
10 Frantisek Cermak (CZE) 27 Leos Friedl (CZE) 25 52
11 Martin Damm (CZE) 16 Radek Stepanek (CZE) 37 53
12 Jonathan Erlich (ISR) 29 Andy Ram (ISR) 31 60
13 Lucas Arnold (ARG) 38 Jared Palmer (USA) 26 64
14 Xavier Malisse (BEL) 32 Olivier Rochus (BEL) 34 66
15 Mariano Hood (ARG) 30 Michael Kohlmann (GER) 36 66
16 Julien Benneteau (FRA) 40 Nicolas Mahut (FRA) 28 68

I wonder what happened to Bhupathi-Woodbridge? ...

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Postby Patrik77 » Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:37 am

Woodbridge maybe going home to Australia after Key Biscaine and will have a few weeks off before coming to Europe. The reason why Bjorkman changed partner to Mirnyi was that Woodbridge should spend more time with his family this year, maybe this is one example of that? :?
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Postby Björki » Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:30 am

Todd :( I wanted to see him. Hope he is going to Hamburg.
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Postby seb » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:30 am

Gael Monfils get a WC for Monte Carlo.

He played Doha, Australian Open, Milan, Marseille, Indian Wells, Miami
... all with WC. This is what one can call "Vitamin C".

Remember: Nadal with the same age as Monfils got into the top 30 without getting so much WCs...
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Postby PatatRiek » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:40 am

seb wrote:Gael Monfils get a WC for Monte Carlo.

He played Doha, Australian Open, Milan, Marseille, Indian Wells, Miami
... all with WC. This is what one can call "Vitamin C".

Remember: Nadal with the same age as Monfils got into the top 30 without getting so much WCs...



unbelievable :x how many more WCs will this kid get :? this is really unfair to other talented players out there who have to struggle for points in challenger level :x :x :x :x

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Postby rhubarb » Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:58 am

He is getting rather a lot of wildcards. Perhaps too many. I'd like to see Marcos Baghdatis getting the same treatment (when he's recovered).

I do think however it makes sense for him to have one for what might be considered his home TMS (Nadal did get one 18 months ago for Madrid). And he's not wasting wcs: he usually wins at least one match, even at this level.
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Postby seb » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:12 am

PatatRiek wrote:unbelievable :x how many more WCs will this kid get :?


As I remeber the amount of WCs is limited to 8 a year (at ATP level).
So the answer to your question might be 1 :)

I remember B.Becker authorized to get a 9th WC (perhaps because he got most WC for late entry in tournaments).
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Postby Patrik77 » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:15 am

Probably Donald Young will get many wildcards as well this year (four already)
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Postby Estevao Rohr » Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:08 am

Probably Donald Young will get many wildcards as well this year (four already)


Now that's really questionable, Young is 15 and still an active junior (probably will play the junior Slams). He actually just recently began to win in juniors (late last year). He's wasting all this WCs, while Monfils is indeed making good use of them. I can maybe understand Young getting WCs to Scottsdale and San Jose, but I don't see a good reason he gets WCs for 2 Master Series.
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Postby Guest » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:03 am

Roddick's not going to play. Probably not Agassi or Hewitt either.
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Postby EMiLY » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:28 am

yeah...i heard hewitt was going to be out til hamburg???
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Postby Björki » Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:40 am

EMiLY wrote:yeah...i heard hewitt was going to be out til hamburg???

yes that's what he said. Hamburg, World Team Cup, FO
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Postby Guest » Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:41 pm

rhubarb wrote:He is getting rather a lot of wildcards. Perhaps too many. I'd like to see Marcos Baghdatis getting the same treatment (when he's recovered).

I do think however it makes sense for him to have one for what might be considered his home TMS (Nadal did get one 18 months ago for Madrid). And he's not wasting wcs: he usually wins at least one match, even at this level.


do you know wht kind of injury does Baghdatis has, and when he is returning to the courts?
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:29 am

Updates

Monte Carlo Main Draw (NO SE spots)
OUT: Dent, Grosjean, Hewitt, Verkerk (and R.Mello from ALT)
IN: Saulnier, Llodra, Zabaleta, Santoro
NEXT: A.Costa, Carlsen, A.Martin, H-T.Lee, Calleri, Puerta, Karlovic, Montanes

Monte Carlo Q
To main draw: Zabaleta
OUT: none
IN: Sanchez

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Postby Andrew_Derer » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:59 am

Hope Luczak makes the Quallie draw
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Postby EMiLY » Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:31 am

does anyone know anything about the WCs for Monte Carlo qualies? I'm hoping Olivier Patience gets one...he mentioned in a recent interview he was going there...but I don't see his name on any of the lists (and his ranking is quite low) so I'm guessing he's expecting a wildcard into the qualies?
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:06 am

Updates

Monte Carlo Main Draw (NO SE spots)
OUT: Dent, Grosjean, Hewitt, Verkerk, Youzhny (and R.Mello from ALT)
IN: Saulnier, Llodra, Zabaleta, Santoro, A.Costa
NEXT: Carlsen, A.Martin, H-T.Lee, Calleri, Puerta, Karlovic, Montanes, Arthurs, Kim, Starace

Monte Carlo Q
To main draw: Zabaleta, A.Costa
OUT: Mathieu (and Lisnard from ALT)
IN: Sanchez, Ulihrach, Hanescu
NEXT: Mutis, Luczak, Wawrinka, Ascione, Simon, Popp, Mahut, Clement

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Postby Enano » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:11 am

Main draw wildcards will be Monfils, Ferrero, Mathieu & Lisnard.

MASTERS SERIES MONTE-CARLO
The Organising Committee of the Masters Series Monte-Carlo has just awarded the last three wild-cards for the Main Draw of the Masters Series Monte-Carlo, which will take place from 9-17 April.

After those awarded to the young French hope, Gaël MONFILS last week, the last three “guests” for the Men's singles for the 2005 edition of the Monaco event of the ATP circuit are:

Juan-Carlos FERRERO (Esp) winner of the Monte-Carlo Tournament in 2002 and 2003

Paul-Henri MATHIEU (Fra) member of the Davis Cup team and principal actor in the victory against Sweden

Jean-René LISNARD (Fra)

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Postby dugarry » Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:55 am

Arnaud Clément didn't receive Wild Card??????? :o :o :o
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Postby seb » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:06 am

Don't understand neither...

WCs should have been Ferrero, Kuerten, Mathieu and Clement (or Gasquet or Monfils).

Don't know what they want to do with Lisnard the small asshole
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Postby dugarry » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:09 am

seb wrote:Don't understand neither...

WCs should have been Ferrero, Kuerten, Mathieu and Clement (or Gasquet or Monfils).

Don't know what they want to do with Lisnard the small asshole

Guga don't need WC because he's protected
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:36 am

Update:

No change in the Main or Q lists, from above ...

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Postby dugarry » Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:49 am

R. Jayakrishnan wrote:Update:

No change in the Main or Q lists, from above ...

Jay

you've forgotten to put Monfils OUT of the Alternates list
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Postby seb » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:54 am

does some one know why is Grosjean out ?
did he play already to much tourneys this year :KooKoo: ?

I would be surprised if Federer plays. He might want to take some rest otherwise he will be burnt before French Open.
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Postby Patrik77 » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:06 am

....and I´m just waiting for Roddick and Agassi to withdraw...would be a surprise to see them in Europe for just one week and then go back to the States to play Houston!
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Postby liwmh » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:08 am

grosjean is in houston entry list. maybe that is why he withdrew.
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Postby EMiLY » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:28 am

Patrik77 wrote:....and I´m just waiting for Roddick and Agassi to withdraw...would be a surprise to see them in Europe for just one week and then go back to the States to play Houston!


yeah, I think they've both virtually said in various interviews that their next tournament would be Houston...ie no Monte Carlo...they'll pull out in due course I guess...
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Postby BelgiumDude » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:53 am

I’ve made a list about Monte Carlo and some possible new withdrawals (the fact wether they play in Houston the next week).

Almost certain to withdraw:
Agassi, Andre USA (WC)
Roddick, Andy USA

Playing in Houston and big chance that they withdraw:
Massu, Nicolas CHI (withdrew from Valencia this week)
Fish, Mardy USA

Playing in Houston, but could be in Monte Carlo MD:
Haas, Tommy GER
Melzer, Jurgen AUT

Playing in Houston but not likely to withdraw from Monte Carlo:
Andreev, Igor RUS (playing in Valencia this week)
Horna, Luis PER (playing in Casablanca this week)

From the current alternate list no. 5 Puerta and no. 9 Kim also play in Houston the next week.

If you think a few names are wrong let us know!
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Postby Patrik77 » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:10 am

Good analyse BD, totally agree about that. Also interesting to see which top european players that will withdraw, there´s always a couple every year...
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Postby Guest » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:50 am

I'd say good analysis, BD

Roddick did play MC then Houston then Rome and Hamburg in both 2002 and 2003. He's probably decided the extra cross-atlantic trip just to lose in the early rounds isn't worth it. He might be right.

But these guys should pull out ASAP if they're not going to play, that's only fair.
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:32 pm

One reason why many of the top players do not withdraw early is also as a favor to the tournament organizers, who would like there to be no talk about "top players" withdrawing and all that and then to have to answer the sponsors' questions .... So, this is usually a bit of a game also. Not sure whom to blame. But normally the fault is not as much with the players; I am sure most tournaments would rather not have any withdrawals be made official early, and some of them even ask the players to kinda keep it quiet! ..

In other cases the players would simply wait till the last few days to see where they are, physically. Most good tennis players know their body very well, and know what their chances are, based on how healthy they feel. You will be surprised how picky some of themn are about it. Sometimes they do not like to hit hard a lot till a day or two before the event, and then they may find that they really need an extra week of recovery time from some groin pain or blisters or some such problem (most tennis players are often carrying little aches and pains). That kind of stuff they decide as late as on the friday before the event, sometimes.

So, a lot of variables go into this.

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Postby J » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:47 pm

My problem isn't the guys coming back from an injury, or that kind of thing...

what about players like Agassi and Roddick who clearly never intended to play in the first place? Regardless of Roddick's injury - he's well enough to play an exhibition this week in Houston, but not to play a Masters event which doesn't even start til several dats later? He obviously never intended to play, even though he hasn't officially withdrawn yet. The Monte Carlo site is not using either of them to sell tickets so it's not like their timely withdrawal would mean their names would have to be taken from the site's advertisements or anything...
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Postby Patrik77 » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:15 am

J wrote: Regardless of Roddick's injury - he's well enough to play an exhibition this week in Houston, but not to play a Masters event which doesn't even start til several dats later?


Roddick isn´t playing the exhibition in Houston, only the ATP-event the week after Monte Carlo
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Postby nitsansh » Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:17 am

I guess tournament directors who know of withdrawals before they are made officially deliver the message to the players next in the alternate list...

Is there a penalty for withdrawal before the Friday deadline without confirmed medical problem?
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:53 am

Of course. You do need medical for withdrawals. That is not a problem, as the players are all generally carrying some problems always (aches and pains) .. The ATP trainers are quite understanding and do not create a big problem if a player says that he/she has a hurting back or a pulled thigh muscle or something.

J -- I don't think you read what I wrote. It is not that the tournaments use any specific names to sell tickets. They just don't like people talking stuff like, "hey, is it true that a couple of top guys withdrew? .. Is Agassi really gonna play? .. blah blah" .. The big season ticket people start talking too, if such word gets out .. It is a pain to ahave to answer such questions from sponsors and others .. So the tournament guys just do not like to have to talk about withdrawals.

I think you did not read what I said about injuries either. I don't think we fans understand how carefully the players look at their physical situation. A guy may not be "injured" per se, but if he has played say 12 matches in the previous 3 weeks, needs a rest and feels some little pain starting somewhere, etc, they withdraw (as they must --- there are some dumb players who do not look at this carefully enough and they pay for it some time or other). Such decisions can really ony be made a day or two before the event. They are really are not injured, but they get the feeling (they know their bodies) that they need to withdraw to prevent damage.

It is not that a top players do not know that it would help others if they withdraw early. In many cases, they feel they really should make an effort to see if they can play. Don't forget that these players all love to PLAY, and are never happy to decide not to play.

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Postby Guest » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:31 am

Patrik77 wrote:Roddick isn´t playing the exhibition in Houston, only the ATP-event the week after Monte Carlo


According to the River Oaks Website, he is playing Mardy Fish in an exhibition tomorrow night

http://www.riveroaksinternational.com/specialevents.htm

He never intended to play Monte Carlo, he should pull out. Same with Agassi. I agree with J.
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Postby EMiLY » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:30 am

Robredo won't be in Monte Carlo...he's in Italy having laser treatment on his shoulder at the moment, won't be returning to Spain until the end of the week and won't resume training until Tuesday next week...he's hoping to make Godo but even that is unsure
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Postby ToniX » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:48 pm

Massu Out....
Check by his coach.... and father...
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