week |10-11| ATP : Indian Wells (+Q)

[BelgiumDude]

Indian Wells 8 WD's
1 Federer, Roger SUI 1
2 Roddick, Andy USA 2
3 Hewitt, Lleyton AUS 3
4 Safin, Marat RUS 4
5 Moya, Carlos ESP 5
6 Coria, Guillermo ARG 6
7 Henman, Tim GBR 7
8 Agassi, Andre USA 8
9 Nalbandian, David ARG 9
10 Gaudio, Gaston ARG 10
11 Johansson, Joachim SWE 11
12 Canas, Guillermo ARG 12
13 Robredo, Tommy ESP 13
14 Grosjean, Sebastien FRA 14
15 Youzhny, Mikhail RUS 15
16 Gonzalez, Fernando CHI 16
17 Haas, Tommy GER 17
18 Pavel, Andrei ROM 18
19 Massu, Nicolas CHI 19
20 Spadea, Vincent USA 20
21 Kiefer, Nicolas GER 21
22 Ljubicic, Ivan CRO 22
23 Lopez, Feliciano ESP 23
24 Chela, Juan Ignacio ARG 24
25 Novak, Jiri CZE 25
26 Davydenko, Nikolay RUS 26
27 Hrbaty, Dominik SVK 27
28 Srichaphan, Paradorn THA 28
29 Ancic, Mario CRO 29
30 Dent, Taylor USA 30
31 Johansson, Thomas SWE 31
32 Stepanek, Radek CZE 32
33 Ferrero, Juan Carlos ESP 33
34 Melzer, Jurgen AUT 34
35 Soderling, Robin SWE 35
36 Verdasco, Fernando ESP 36
37 Fish, Mardy USA 37
38 Mayer, Florian GER 38
39 Horna, Luis PER 39
40 Schuettler, Rainer GER 40
41 Volandri, Filippo ITA 41
42 Beck, Karol SVK 42
43 Berdych, Tomas CZE 43
44 Mirnyi, Max BLR 44
45 Kuerten, Gustavo BRA 45
46 Costa, Albert ESP 46
47 Malisse, Xavier BEL 47
48 Rusedski, Greg GBR 48
49 Santoro, Fabrice FRA 49
50 Ferrer, David ESP 50
51 Llodra, Michael FRA 51
52 Andreev, Igor RUS 52
53 Rochus, Olivier BEL 53
54 Zabaleta, Mariano ARG 54
55 Saulnier, Cyril FRA 55
56 Nadal, Rafael ESP 56
57 Ginepri, Robby USA 57
58 Lee, Hyung-Taik KOR 58
59 Mello, Ricardo BRA 59
60 Karlovic, Ivo CRO 60
61 Schalken, Sjeng NED 61 : replaced by (LL) Sanguinetti, Davide ITA
62 Verkerk, Martin NED 62
63 Acasuso, Jose ARG 63
64 Arazi, Hicham MAR 64
65 Benneteau, Julien FRA 65
66 Calleri, Agustin ARG 66
67 Enqvist, Thomas SWE 67
68 Martin, Alberto ESP 68
69 Starace, Potito ITA 69
70 Muller, Gilles LUX 70
71 Koubek, Stefan AUT 71
72 Hernych, Jan CZE 72
73 Bjorkman, Jonas SWE 73
74 Sanchez, David ESP 74
75 Labadze, Irakli GEO 75
76 Dupuis, Antony FRA 76
77 Tursunov, Dmitry RUS 77
78 Calatrava, Alex ESP 78
79 Sargsian, Sargis ARM 79
80 (WC) Philippoussis, Mark AUS
81 (WC) Young, Donald USA
82 (WC) Monfils, Gael FRA
83 (WC) Blake, James USA
84 (WC) Kuznetsov, Alex USA
85 (Q)
86 (Q)
87 (Q)
88 (Q)
89 (Q)
90 (Q)
91 (Q)
92 (Q)
93 (Q)
94 (Q)
95 (Q)
96 (Q)

Alternates
IN Carlsen, Kenneth DEN 80
IN Monaco, Juan ARG 81
OUT Hernandez, Oscar ESP 82
OUT Tabara, Michal CZE 83
OUT Lu, Yen-Hsun TPE 84
OUT Sluiter, Raemon NED 85
IN Mathieu, Paul-Henri FRA @85
IN Kim, Kevin USA 86
IN Nieminen, Jarkko FIN 87
IN Hanescu, Victor ROM 88
OUT Haehnel, Jerome FRA 89
IN Gambill, Jan-Michael USA 90
OUT Wessels, Peter NED 91
IN Morrison, Jeff USA 92

Qualifying Indian Wells 14 WD's
1 Kohlschreiber, Philipp GER 66
2 Kim, Kevin USA 68
3 Monaco, Juan ARG 80
4 Zib, Tomas CZE 81
5 Ventura, Santiago ESP 84
6 Burgsmuller, Lars GER 91
7 Minar, Ivo CZE 103
8 Lisnard, Jean-Rene FRA 107
9 Arthurs, Wayne AUS 109
10 Sanguinetti, Davide ITA 110
11 Gasquet, Richard FRA 111
12 Ulihrach, Bohdan CZE 112
13 Clement, Arnaud FRA 113
14 Gambill, Jan-Michael USA 114
15 Phau, Bjorn GER 115
16 Morrison, Jeff USA 116
17 Moodie, Wesley RSA 117
18 Carraz, Gregory FRA 118
19 Heuberger, Ivo SUI 124
20 Corretja, Alex ESP 126
21 Ascione, Thierry FRA 127
22 Waske, Alexander GER 129
23 Bogomolov Jr., Alex USA 131 : replaced by (ALT) Zimonjic, Nenad SCG
24 Mahut, Nicolas FRA 132
25 Lapentti, Giovanni ECU 133
26 Norman, Dick BEL 134
27 Simon, Gilles FRA 137
28 Peya, Alexander AUT 139
29 Bracciali, Daniele ITA 140
30 Blake, James USA 141
31 Gimelstob, Justin USA 148
32 Seppi, Andreas ITA 150
33 Okun, Noam ISR 151
34 Ryderstedt, Michael SWE 152
35 Salzenstein, Jeff USA 154
36 Luczak, Peter AUS 155
37 Guzman, Juan-Pablo ARG 156
38 Armando, Hugo USA 157
39 Goldstein, Paul USA 158
40 Dancevic, Frank CAN 161
41 Sabau, Razvan ROM 163
42 Karanusic, Roko CRO 164
43 Summerer, Tobias GER 165
44 (WC) Rico,Pedro ESP
45 (WC) Evans, Brendan USA
46 (WC) Odesnik, Wayne USA
47 (WC) Vahaly, Brian USA
48 (WC) Delic, Amer USA

Alternates
OUT Hippensteel, KJ USA 166
IN Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried FRA 168
OUT Kratochvil, Michel SUI 171
IN Brzezicki, Juan Pablo ARG 176
OUT Monfils, Gael FRA 178
IN Kunitsyn, Igor RUS 179
OUT Baker, Brian USA 180
IN Marach, Oliver AUT 184
IN Weiner, Glenn USA 187
IN Serra, Florent FRA 189
IN Reynolds, Bobby USA 191
IN Vico, Uros ITA 192
OUT Luzzi, Federico ITA 193
IN Delgado, Ramon PAR 194
OUT Schukin, Yuri RUS 195
OUT Dlouhy, Lukas CZE 196
OUT Azzaro, Leonardo ITA 197
IN Jeanpierre, Julien FRA 202
IN Kendrick, Robert USA 206
OUT Prpic, Filip SWE 210
IN Roger-Vasselin, Edouard FRA 216
OUT De Voest, Rik RSA 218
OUT Reid, Todd AUS 219
OUT De Chaunac, Sebastien FRA 222
IN Mamiit, Cecil USA 224
IN Roitman, Sergio ARG 228 : replaced by (ALT) Knowle, Julian AUT

[Guest]

Will seeding be based on 3/7 entry rankings (or 2/21)? The ATP Main Draw is Tuesday, March 8th.

http://www.pacificlifeopen.com/en/tournament/calendar/

[Fee]

The most current rankings are used to set the seeds.

[Tennis724]

Is Alex Bogomolov listed anywhere on the alternate list? I see you stop at 15 so he might be in the 20s if he is on it.

Whether I continue to try and make plans to go down that way depends on it. 3 hours by Greyhound to Palm Springs and then however long the transportation from PS to IW is (if I can find that transportation).

So even a glimmer of hope that he might play quallies gives me a push to keep researching. He got a WC last year but i can't count on that for this year.

Any help would be appreciated.

[smucav]

Kuerten drops out of Indian Wells and Key Biscayne

[Tennis724]

Does anyone remember when the WCs were announced for last year? Trying to remember if it was a week before or earlier.

[Fee]

check the archived thread at MTF, its probably there. I vaguely remember that they announced Marat as a WC fairly early.

[Tennis724]

*Try to post this again*

Thanks, Fee. Unfortunately, it looks like the WCs were released just days before the MD last year and that doesn't help me much.

As it stands I will be going on the 9th OR the 11th OR the 12th. I figured the 9th might be my strongest possibility. the bad thing is that I have to make my transportation reservations going from Palm Springs to IW 2 weeks in advance because i'm a visitor .

[EMiLY]

is there a complete quali entry list anywhere?

[R. Jayakrishnan]

The qualifying entry list will be here soon. Yesterday was the deadline to enter for qualies. So the list comes out this week ...

Jay

[Tennis724]

Good to know. At least I can get a better idea with a list.

[BelgiumDude]

The Qualifying Entry List is added.

[pozaking]

Thanks BD!
any mexican in the qualifying alternate list?

[Tennis724]

Thanks, BD

Alex won't even be seeded in quallies . Sorta knew that already though.

[EMiLY]

thanks for adding the quali list BD!!!

[Patrik77]

Tabara and Lu are in for the challenger in Kyoto the same week as the Indian Wells start, that should mean that they are out from the alternate list for IW

[Nathaliia]

Hmmm being both in alternates and qualifying list? Wise movement

[nitsansh]

Tabara and Lu are in for the challenger in Kyoto the same week as the Indian Wells start, that should mean that they are out from the alternate list for IW

Not necessarily. The qualifying start on Wednesday, so if they are out of Kyoto in 1st round they can still make it to IW...

[Fee]

Will we get Doubles info for IW?

[Gatway]

Hello, i have two doubts.

Is there any player as a direct acceptance in Indian Wells using a protected ranking ?.

And the second question is, the protected ranking can be used to be a seeded player or only uses to entry as a direct acceptance but doesn't count to be a seeded player ?

[Patrik77]

Hello, i have two doubts.

Is there any player as a direct acceptance in Indian Wells using a protected ranking ?.

And the second question is, the protected ranking can be used to be a seeded player or only uses to entry as a direct acceptance but doesn't count to be a seeded player ?

1. According to the list above no players with protected ranking
2. Protected ranking can only be used as an entry, don´t get you any seeding

[pozaking]

Hey, BD!
any mexican in the qualifying alternate list?
please let me know

greetings
pozaking

[BelgiumDude]

Hey, BD!
any mexican in the qualifying alternate list?
please let me know

42. Gonzalez, Santiago MEX 282

That is all I'm afraid

[pozaking]

Well thank´s BD I´m afraid too. He won´t play quallies!!!!

[daryl]

Gaudio is out for at least 3 weeks (abdominal muscle). So count him out of IW.

[Fee]

I know its early, but might we have a few offiicial updates for IW, and the doubles list?

[Tennis724]

I don't know when it happened but nice to see the forum back

[R. Jayakrishnan]

I have not seen the doubles list still ..

Update:

Indian Wells
OUT: Koubec, Kuerten (and O.Hernandez from ALT)
IN: Carlsen, Monaco
NEXT: Tabara, Lu, Sluiter, Mathieu, K.Kim, J.Nieminen, Hanescu, Haehnel

Indian Wells Q
OUT: Gasquet, Luczak (and Baker from ALT)
IN: Hippensteel, Tsonga
NEXT: Kratochvil, Brzezicki, Monfils, Kunitsyn, Marach, Weiner, Serra, Reynolds

Jay

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[R. Jayakrishnan]

OK, here is the doubles entry list (sum of rank at the end of the lines):

AMS Indian Wells, USA
Draw Size = 32 Teams (22 Doubles Acceptances+ 8 Singles entries + 2 WC)
Cut Off: 90 Entry System Date: 2/21/2005

1 Mark Knowles (BAH) 1 Daniel Nestor (CAN) 1 2
2 Wayne Black (ZIM) 4 Kevin Ullyett (ZIM) 4 8
3 Bob Bryan (USA) 6 Mike Bryan (USA) 6 12
4 Jonas Bjorkman (SWE) 3 Max Mirnyi (BLR) 10 13
5 Mahesh Bhupathi (IND) 9 Todd Woodbridge (AUS) 8 17
6 Leander Paes (IND) 11 Nenad Zimonjic (SCG) 13 24
7 Wayne Arthurs (AUS) 17 Paul Hanley (AUS) 12 29
8 Michael Llodra (FRA) 14 Fabrice Santoro (FRA) 18 32
9 Cyril Suk (CZE) 15 Pavel Vizner (CZE) 19 34
10 Simon Aspelin (SWE) 21 Todd Perry (AUS) 20 41
11 Martin Damm (CZE) 16 Jared Palmer (USA) 26 42
12 Gaston Etlis (ARG) 25 Martin Rodriguez (ARG) 24 49
13 Frantisek Cermak (CZE) 27 Leos Friedl (CZE) 23 50
14 Jonathan Erlich (ISR) 29 Andy Ram (ISR) 31 60
15 Lucas Arnold (ARG) 35 Mariano Hood (ARG) 30 65
16 Julien Benneteau (FRA) 41 Nicolas Mahut (FRA) 28 69
17 Xavier Malisse (BEL) 34 Olivier Rochus (BEL) 36 70
18 Jiri Novak (CZE) 50 David Rikl (CZE) 22 72
19 Yves Allegro (SUI) 37 Michael Kohlmann (GER) 38 75
20 Julian Knowle (AUT) 32 Petr Pala (CZE) 43 75
21 Arnaud Clement (FRA) 33 Jaroslav Levinsky (CZE) 55 88
22 Alexander Waske (GER) 48 Andrei Pavel (ROM) 42 90

Jay

[Erikslomp]

Verkerk (injury) and Tabara and Lu (Kyoto Challenger) are also problay out.

[BelgiumDude]

Jay, I have a question about the updates.
You have KJ Hippensteel in as first alternate.
I had him in my original list.
Did ATP add a name after the list came out first the first time?

[seb]

Indian Wells Q
OUT: Gasquet, Luczak (and Baker from ALT)
IN: Hippensteel, Tsonga
NEXT: Kratochvil, Brzezicki, Monfils, Kunitsyn, Marach, Weiner, Serra, Reynolds

Tsonga is injured since begin of 2005

[Tennis724]

Anyone with a solid idea or date of when the WCs will be announced? Still holding on by a thread that Alex could be extended one

[R. Jayakrishnan]

BD -- I guess Bracciali, Daniele ITA 140 was not in the original list IW Q list .. Good catch,

Jay

[Kowalczyk]

After Wayne Arthurs win in Scottsdale and new ranking in the 60's does this now qualify him for Indian Wells main draw?

[Patrik77]

After Wayne Arthurs win in Scottsdale and new ranking in the 60's does this now qualify him for Indian Wells main draw?

No, it´s the ranking of six weeks ago that counts of who´s gonna enter IW, for Wayne Arthurs it will be easier to get in into tournaments that are played in six weeks time from now (monte carlo and forward)

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Update:

Indian Wells
OUT: Koubec, Kuerten, Soderling (and O.Hernandez from ALT)
IN: Carlsen, Monaco, Tabara
NEXT: Lu, Sluiter, Mathieu, K.Kim, J.Nieminen, Hanescu, Haehnel, Gambill

Indian Wells Q
OUT: Gasquet, Luczak, Monaco (and Kratochvil, Baker from ALT)
IN: Hippensteel, Tsonga, Brzezicki
NEXT: Monfils, Kunitsyn, Marach, Weiner, Serra, Reynolds, Vico, Luzzi

Jay

Check

[Erikslomp]

Isn't Tabara (just as Lu) forced to play in Kyoto as he has entered there in the main draw?

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Anybody who plays another event and loses early, who can come in to play qualies by wednesday (thursday?) is allowed to play at the IW qualies. The ATP will check with those players before making the draw the night before.

Those who play another event this week, lose and come to play qualies at Indian Wells, are not allowed to play NEXT week anywhere that is all.

In other words, the ususal "maximum one tournament a week" rule applies over a two week period.

Jay

[Erikslomp]

But this isn't about qualies but main tournament draw. What if Tabara and Lu do make it to the 2nd round or later of Kyoto and then the main draw is made at Tuesday?

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Oh, sorry .. Similar thing for main draw too .. Here is what ATP has said,

Players who have competed and lost by 6pm on Tuesday, March 8 in the Kyoto Challenger or the France F4, Italy F3, Great Britain F3, Portugal F3 or USA F6 Futures ITF Men’s Circuit Events may compete if otherwise eligible in the Indian Wells Qualifying. These players will not be permitted to participate in another tournament during the second week of Indian Wells;

Players who withdraw after the Qualifying Sign-In Deadline or are a No-Show at the Kyoto Challenger or the France F4, Italy F3, Great Britain F3, Portugal F3 or USA F6 Futures ITF Men’s Circuit Events or any other event occurring during the week of the Indian Wells Qualifying will not be allowed to play in the Indian Wells Qualifying;

Players who have competed in the Indian Wells Qualifying and/or Main Draw and lost before the Qualifying Sign-In Deadline for the following week’s events will be allowed to compete in Qualifying or Main Draw of the Ho Chi Minh City, Sunrise, FL, Salinas or Sarajevo Challengers, or the France F5, Italy F4, Great Britain F4 or India F3 Futures or Israel 1 Satellite ITF Men’s Circuit Events or any other event occurring during the second week of Indian Wells provided they have not played in another tournament during the first week of Indian Wells. Players who are still competing in Indian Wells at this deadline will be withdrawn from any tournaments they have entered during the second week of Indian Wells.

Jay

[Erikslomp]

So Tabara and Lu (who are in Kyoto Challenger entry list) are not allowed to play in Indian Wells if I understand this correctly. Only qualies are mentioned

[R. Jayakrishnan]

I suspect their wording is a bit weird, that's all. As the main draw is made on the Tuesday 1 pm, by when we would have gone past 6 pm at Kyoto and all the other listed events (except USA F6), they will know who is eligible to play IW qualifying or main draw. I see no reason why they would allow somebody to be placed in the qualifying draw that starts the next day but not in the main draw which is two days later! ..

As far as I know, they will allow Lu and Tabara, if they have lost at Kyoto on monday or tuesday, to be in the main draw made on Tuesday, fly in and play on wednesday at Indian Wells [TUE 6pm at Kyoto is much earlier than the TUE 1 pm at IW when the main draw is made] ..

Interesting.

Jay

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Update:

Indian Wells
OUT: Koubec, Kuerten, Soderling (and O.Hernandez, Tabara from ALT)
IN: Carlsen, Monaco, Lu
NEXT: Sluiter, Mathieu, K.Kim, J.Nieminen, Hanescu, Haehnel, Gambill, Wessels

Indian Wells Q
OUT: Gasquet, Luczak, Mahut, Monaco (and Kratochvil, Baker from ALT)
IN: Hippensteel, Tsonga, Brzezicki, Monfils
NEXT: Kunitsyn, Marach, Weiner, Serra, Reynolds, Vico, Luzzi

Well, it looks like Tabara told them that he has no plans to come down to IW whether he wins or loses, but Lu has now gone into the list ..

Jay

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[Erikslomp]

What;s your thought about 8 more players withdrawing. THat will mean Wessels enters the main draw.

And does this means that Tabara, because he is allowed to play now, but chooses to play Kyoto now has zero points for this tournament (as one of his 18 best)? This because IW is one of the tournaments that has to be counted is someone can play there?

[keope1977]

What;s your thought about 8 more players withdrawing. THat will mean Wessels enters the main draw.

And does this means that Tabara, because he is allowed to play now, but chooses to play Kyoto now has zero points for this tournament (as one of his 18 best)? This because IW is one of the tournaments that has to be counted is someone can play there?

Tabara will not have a "zero" becouse he wasn't in the original entry list.

[Erikslomp]

Okay, it's getting clear to me now . Bit confusing those 1,5 week tournamets

[smucav]

Pacific Life Open adds several wild cards

Mark Philippoussis
Donald Young
Gael Monfils
James Blake
1 TBD

Check

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Update:

Indian Wells
OUT: Koubec, Kuerten, Soderling (and O.Hernandez, Tabara, Lu, Sluiter from ALT)
IN: Carlsen, Monaco, Mathieu
NEXT: K.Kim, J.Nieminen, Hanescu, Haehnel, Gambill, Wessels, Morrison, Kucera

Indian Wells Q
OUT: Blake, Gasquet, Luczak, Mahut, Monaco, Ventura (and Hippensteel, Kratochvil, Monfils, Baker, Luzzi, Dlouhy, Azzaro from ALT)
IN: Tsonga, Brzezicki, Kunitsyn, Marach, Weiner, Serra
NEXT: Reynolds, Vico, R.Delgado, Jeanpierre, Kendrick, Prpic, Roger-Vasselin, DeVoest, Reid, DeChaunac

Jay

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[BelgiumDude]

Thanks for the update Jay!
Does anyone have some info on the qualifying wild cards?