week |2| ATP : Sydney, Auckland, AO Qualies

[BelgiumDude]

Sydney 2 WD's + 1
1 Hewitt, Lleyton AUS 3
2 Moya, Carlos ESP 5
3 Johansson, Joachim SWE 11
4 Haas, Tommy GER 17
5 Pavel, Andrei ROM 20
6 Kiefer, Nicolas GER 21
7 Lopez, Feliciano ESP 25
8 Davydenko, Nikolay RUS 28
9 Johansson, Thomas SWE 30
10 Dent, Taylor USA 32
11 Stepanek, Radek CZE 33
12 Soderling, Robin SWE 34
13 Mayer, Florian GER 35
14 Verdasco, Fernando ESP 36
15 Fish, Mardy USA 37
16 Melzer, Jurgen AUT 39
17 Llodra, Michael FRA 41
18 Volandri, Filippo ITA 43
19 Beck, Karol SVK 44
20 Berdych, Tomas CZE 45
21 Rusedski, Greg GBR 46
22 Mirnyi, Max BLR 47
23 Malisse, Xavier BEL 48
24 (SE) Zib, Tomas CZE
25 (SE)
26 (WC) Reid, Todd AUS
27 (WC) Philippoussis, Mark AUS : replaced by (LL) Nieminen, Jarko FIN
28 (WC) Arthurs, Wayne AUS
29 (Q) Ventura, Santiago ESP
30 (Q) Clement, Arnaud FRA
31 (Q) Bourgeois, Luke AUS
32 (Q) Minar, Ivo CZE

Alternates
IN Ferrer, David ESP 49
IN Andreev, Igor RUS 50
IN Costa, Albert ESP 56

Auckland 3 WD's + 1
1 Coria, Guillermo ARG 7
2 Robredo, Tommy ESP 13
3 Hrbaty, Dominik SVK 14
4 Spadea, Vincent USA 19
5 Gonzalez, Fernando CHI 23
6 Chela, Juan Ignacio ARG 26
7 Ancic, Mario CRO 29
8 Ferrero, Juan Carlos ESP 31
9 Horna, Luis PER 38
10 Nadal, Rafael ESP 51
11 Santoro, Fabrice FRA 52
12 Saulnier, Cyril FRA 53
13 Zabaleta, Mariano ARG 54
14 Schalken, Sjeng NED 57
15 Calleri, Agustin ARG 58
16 Ginepri, Robby USA 61
17 Koubek, Stefan AUT 63
18 Benneteau, Julien FRA 65
19 Rochus, Olivier BEL 66
20 Acasuso, Jose ARG 67
21 Martin, Alberto ESP 68
22 Muller, Gilles LUX 69
23 Bjorkman, Jonas SWE 70
24 (SE) Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP
25 (SE)
26 (WC) Blake, James USA
27 (WC) Nielsen, Mark NZL
28 (WC) Jones G.D. NZL
29 (Q) Hernych, Jan CZE
30 (Q) Luzzi, Frederico ITA
31 (Q) Kohlschreiber, Philipp GER
32 (Q) Sluiter, Raemon NED

Alternates
IN Mello, Ricardo BRA 71
IN Monaco, Juan ARG 73
IN Sanchez, David ESP 74
OUT Sargsian, Sargis ARM 75
IN Starace, Potito ITA 76

AO Qualies 29 WD's
1 Almagro, Nicolas ESP 103
2 Clement, Arnaud FRA 106
3 Gasquet, Richard FRA 107
4 Mutis, Olivier FRA 108
5 Philippoussis, Mark AUS 109
6 Sanguinetti, Davide ITA 110
7 Saretta, Flavio BRA 111
8 Rochus, Christophe BEL 113
9 Corretja, Alex ESP 114
10 Vanek, Jiri CZE 115
11 Vliegen, Kristof BEL 116
12 Tipsarevic, Janko SCG 117
13 Patience, Olivier FRA 119
14 Zib, Tomas CZE 121
15 Heuberger, Ivo SUI 124
16 Bogomolov Jr., Alex USA 125
17 Reid, Todd AUS 126
18 Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP 129
19 Mahut, Nicolas FRA 131
20 Thomann, Nicolas FRA @132
21 Lisnard, Jean-Rene FRA 132
22 Waske, Alexander GER 134
23 Phau, Bjorn GER 136
24 Moodie, Wesley RSA 137
25 Aldi, Francesco ITA 138
26 Ascione, Thierry FRA 140
27 Okun, Noam ISR 141
28 Chiudinelli, Marco SUI 142
29 Salzenstein, Jeff USA 144
30 Seppi, Andreas ITA 146
31 Bracciali, Daniele ITA 147
32 Karanusic, Roko CRO 148
33 Lopez, Marc ESP 149
34 Luczak, Peter AUS 150
35 Weiner, Glenn USA 152
36 Lapentti, Giovanni ECU 154 : replaced by (ALT) Garcia, Adrian CHI
37 Jeanpierre, Julien FRA 155
38 Hippensteel, KJ USA 156
39 Minar, Ivo CZE 157
40 Kunitsyn, Igor RUS 158
41 Baghdatis, Marcos CYP 159
42 Kendrick, Robert USA 160
43 Gimelstob, Justin USA 162
44 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried FRA 163
45 Norman, Dick BEL 166
46 Galvani, Stefano ITA @166
47 Kratochvil, Michel SUI 167
48 Wawrinka, Stanislas SUI 168
49 Tenconi, Tomas ITA 169
50 Gicquel, Marc FRA 170
51 Dancevic, Frank CAN 171
52 Kindlmann, Dieter GER 172
53 Delic, Amer USA 173
54 Vacek, Jan CZE 176
55 Simon, Gilles FRA 177
56 Baker, Brian USA 178
57 Ryderstedt, Michael SWE 179
58 Gimeno-Traver, Daniel ESP 180
59 Sa, Andre BRA 181
60 Sabau, Razvan ROM 182
61 Parmar, Arvind GBR 183
62 Summerer, Tobias GER 185
63 Djokovic, Novak SCG 186
64 Mertinak, Michal SVK 188
65 Brzezicki, Juan Pablo ARG 189
66 Goldstein, Paul USA 190
67 Dlouhy, Lukas CZE 191
68 Faurel, Jean-Christophe FRA 193
69 Schukin, Yuri RUS 194
70 Bogdanovic, Alex GBR 195
71 Andersen, Jan Frode NOR 196
72 Roger-Vasselin, Edouard FRA 197
73 Devilder, Nicolas FRA 198
74 Marach, Oliver AUT 200
75 Bastl, George SUI 201
76 Azzaro, Leonardo ITA 202
77 Robert, Stephane FRA 203
78 Udomchoke, Danai THA 204
79 Koellerer, Daniel AUT 205
80 Vico, Uros ITA 206
81 De Voest, Rik RSA 207
82 Tuksar, Sasa CRO 208
83 Golmard, Jerome FRA 211
84 Suzuki, Takao JPN 212
85 Serra, Florent FRA 213
86 Snobel, Pavel CZE 215
87 Qureshi, Aisam-Ul-Haq PAK 218
88 Vinciguerra, Andreas SWE @218
89 Kubot, Lukasz POL 219
90 De Chaunac, Sebastien FRA 220
91 Todero, Nicolas ARG 221
92 Luzzi, Federico ITA 222
93 Gallardo Valles, Miguel MEX 224
94 Mamiit, Cecil USA 226
95 Prpic, Filip SWE 228
96 Pless, Kristian DEN 230
97 Delgado, Jamie GBR 231
98 Eschauer, Werner AUT 232
99 Di Pasquale, Arnaud FRA 234
100 Vahaly, Brian USA 237
101 Monfils, Gael FRA 239
102 Mackin, Alan GBR 240
103 Moyano, Diego ARG 242
104 Prodon, Eric FRA 243
105 Svarc, Ladislav SVK 245
106 Levy, Harel ISR 247
107 Pequery, Jean-Michel FRA 248
108 Galimberti, Giorgio ITA 249
109 Vemic, Dusan SCG 251
110 Ishii, Yaoki JPN @252
111 Sarstrand, Marcus SWE 253
112 Cakl, Tomas CZE 254
113 Knowle, Julian AUT 257
114 Gabashvili, Teimuraz RUS 258
115 Marray, Jonathan GBR 260
116 Fitz, Sebastian GER 263
117 Motomura, Gouichi JPN 264
118 Daniel, Marcos BRA 267
119 Unkown player
120 (WC) Kerley, Joel AUS
121 (WC) Sirianni, Joseph AUS
122 (WC) Bourgeois, Luke AUS
123 (WC) Marafiote, Domenic AUS
124 (WC) Ley, Todd AUS
125 (WC) Junaid, Rameez AUS
126 (WC) Derer, Andrew AUS
127 (WC) Yim, Robert USA
128 (WC) Durek, Raphael AUS

Alternates
IN Minar, Jan CZE 268
OUT Bolelli, Simone ITA 269
OUT Dellatorre, Andres ARG 270
IN Van Gemerden, Melle NED 274
OUT Gonzalez, Santiago MEX 276
IN Gamonal, Hermes CHI 278 : replaced by (ALT) Navarro, Salvador ESP
IN Terachi, Takahiro JPN 279
OUT Guccione, Chris AUS 281
OUT Kohlmann, Michael GER 282
IN Mlynarik, Zbynek AUT 285
IN Taino, Eric USA 286
IN Reynolds, Bobby USA 288
IN Piccari, Francesco ITA 291
IN Mazarakis, Vasilis GRE 293
IN Bruthans, Victor SVK 294
OUT Ram, Rajeev USA 297
IN Chen, Ti TPE 300
OUT Costa, Francisco BRA 301
IN Mirnegg, Marco AUT 302
OUT Ager, Johannes AUT 307
OUT Sela, Dudi ISR 308
OUT Kimmich, Marc AUS 309
IN Lorenzi, Paolo ITA 310
OUT Op der Heijde, Melvyn NED 311
IN Economidis, Konstantinos GRE 312
IN Hartfield, Diego ARG 313
IN Klec, Ivo GER 314
OUT Scherrer, Jean-Claude SUI 315
OUT Chadaj, Adam POL 318
OUT Vagnozzi, Simone ITA 320
IN Eitzinger, Rainer AUT 321
OUT Baccanello, Paul AUS 324
OUT Bardoczky, Kornel HUN 329
OUT Iwami, Tasuku JPN 330
OUT Pedroso, Andres USA 332
OUT Cerovic, Ivan CRO 333
IN Middelkoop, Matwe NED 334
OUT Stakhovsky, Sergiy UKR 335
OUT Iwabuchi, Satoshi JPN 337
OUT Marcaccio, Gustavo ARG 338
OUT Przysiezny, Michal POL 339
OUT Kralert, Petr CZE 341
OUT Zimonjic, Nenad SCG 342
IN Mertl, Jan CZE 343
OUT Healey, Nathan AUS 344
OUT Trujillo-Soler, Gabriel ESP 346
OUT Pospisil, Jaroslav CZE 347
OUT Sugiyama, Norikazu JPN 350
IN Moser, Frank GER @355
OUT Mankad, Harsh IND 360
IN Ram, Andy ISR 366
IN Cermak, Frantisek CZE 367
OUT Sipaeya, Sunil Kumar IND 369
IN Crabb, Jaymon AUS 402
OUT Ouahab, Lamine ALG 406
OUT Agaev, Emin AZE 415
IN Bachelot, Jean-Francois FRA 419
IN Nettle, Shannon AUS 420
IN Feeney, Adam AUS 422
IN Varlet, Julien FRA 428
IN Kadir, Sadik AUS 429
OUT Kedriouk, Alexey KAZ 432
IN Smeets, Robert AUS 434

[PatatRiek]

thanks BelgiumDude

does anyone know when the Australian Open entry list will come out? and which entry ranking will be used

regards
PatatRiek

[Fee]

Aus Open entry deadline is 6 weeks before, so the lists should be out this week. Qualie lists should be out 4 weeks before.

BD or Jay, can you tell me where or if JMG is on the Auckland/Sydney alternate lists? Thanks.

[R. Jayakrishnan]

JMG is 19th in the Auckland ALT list. Did not enter Sydney,w here he would have been a couple of spots lower.

Jay

[Elina]

It's nice to already have the entrylists of the tournaments next year. At least something to speculate when there's no real action. Thanks! Do you know if Jérôme Haehnel has entered either Sydney or Auckland? I noticed that he was on the Adelaide list on week 1. It would be nice to see him do full tour in Australia now that his ranking allows it.

[PatatRiek]

Aus Open entry deadline is 6 weeks before, so the lists should be out this week. Qualie lists should be out 4 weeks before.

thanks for the info Fiona

[Fee]

You're welcome . Thanks for the info Jay .

Elina, does this mean Jerome isn't afraid to fly anymore, he's being drugged for the flights, or was that a different player?

[Elina]

Elina, does this mean Jerome isn't afraid to fly anymore, he's being drugged for the flights, or was that a different player?

Jérôme was playing in Mauritius last week, so I guess he was testing if he could fly. While in Mauritius he said in an interview that he would play in Australia, so I guess he's not too afraid of flying. He told that the flight to Mauritius had been "painful" but he had stayed alive.

[Guest]

WC for Philipousssis in Sydney.

[BelgiumDude]

I've added the entry list for the AO Qualies, which came out this week.
The AO Qualies will be played in this week, week 2!

Greetings
BD

[Tennis724]

Thanks to the ATP ranking system basically punishing Alex for trying to qualify for a Masters Series over defending points...he's basically right where he started 2004. Only a little lower . He started this year at 121 and ended at 125. He was at 100 before The Championship points from Tiburon came off and the QFs from Waco.

Looks like he's going to be one of the lower seeds in AO quallies and, on top of that, it doesn't look like he will be playing before Melbourne in order to warm-up. Haven't heard back from my usual source about it. Don't expect to either.

[PatatRiek]

I've added the entry list for the AO Qualies, which came out this week.

thanks BelgiumDude i'm surprised that Gilles Elseneer didn't sign up

anyways, merry Xmas to all

regards
PatatRiek

[Jan]

Can anyone tell me what happened to Daniel Elsner? He's out for months now and is also not on the AO-Q-list.

[Tennis724]

Just got confirmation today that Alex will be playing in the Sydney quallies.

[Guest]

WC for James Blake in Auckland.

[BelgiumDude]

Any updates yet Jay?

I also have a question about the Aus Open Qualies. You wrote that Minar made it in as first alternate, but he was already on the original list I received. I guess ATP forgot a player in the list and corrected that later, sending Minar to the first alternate-spot. I'd like to know who the forgotten player was. Any idea?

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Updates:

Auckland (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Koubec
IN: R.Mello
NEXT: Monaco, D.Sanchez, Sargsian, Starace, Nieminen, Dupuis, Calatrava, Sluiter, Hernych, Kohlschreiber

Sydney (2 SE spots to be cleared)
Absolutely no withdrawals, no change!

Jay

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Australian Open Qualifying
OUT: Almagro, Clement, Gallardo-Valles, Kendrick, Kratochvil, Luczak, Summerer, Gasquet, Gimelstob, Moyano, Mutis, Philippoussis, Vinciguerra (and Bolelli, Kimmich, OpDerHeijde from ALT)
IN: J.Minar, Dellatorre, vanGemerden, S.Gonzalez, Gamonal, Terachi, Guccione, Kohlmann, Mlynarik, Taino, Reynolds, Piccari, Mazarakis
NEXT: Bruthans, Ram, Chen, F.Costa, Mirnegg, Ager, Sela, Lorenzi, Economidis, Hartfield, Klec, Scherrer

Cut down to #293 for qualies...

Jay

[R. Jayakrishnan]

BD: It was Ivo Minar who was in the Q entry already. Jan Minar is the one who was the first alternate. I forgot to add the "J." in front earlier, that's all..

Jay

[westaussie]

Australian Open Qualifying
OUT: Almagro, Clement, Gallardo-Valles, Kendrick, Kratochvil, Luczak, Summerer, Gasquet, Gimelstob, Moyano, Mutis, Philippoussis, Vinciguerra (and Bolelli, Kimmich, OpDerHeijde from ALT)
IN: J.Minar, Dellatorre, vanGemerden, S.Gonzalez, Gamonal, Terachi, Guccione, Kohlmann, Mlynarik, Taino, Reynolds, Piccari, Mazarakis
NEXT: Bruthans, Ram, Chen, F.Costa, Mirnegg, Ager, Sela, Lorenzi, Economidis, Hartfield, Klec, Scherrer

Cut down to #293 for qualies...

Jay

so philippoussis (presuming he plays) will be direct into australian open?

also can you please tell me how far away reid is from main draw direct entry?

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Yes, scud is now in the main draw directly. Reid is 14th in the waiting list right now for main draw.

Jay

[ToniX]

whats up with chilean boys?

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Updates:

Auckland (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Koubec, Ancic
IN: R.Mello, Monaco
NEXT: D.Sanchez, Sargsian, Starace, Nieminen, Dupuis, Calatrava, Sluiter, Hernych, Kohlschreiber, Mathieu

Sydney (2 SE spots to be cleared)
Still absolutely no withdrawals, no change!

Australian Open Qualifying
OUT: Almagro, Clement, Gallardo-Valles, Kendrick, Kratochvil, Luczak, Summerer, Gasquet, Gimelstob, Moyano, Mutis, Philippoussis, Vinciguerra, Monfils (and Bolelli, Kimmich, OpDerHeijde, F.Costa from ALT)
IN: J.Minar, Dellatorre, vanGemerden, S.Gonzalez, Gamonal, Terachi, Guccione, Kohlmann, Mlynarik, Taino, Reynolds, Piccari, Mazarakis, Bruthans
NEXT: Ram, Chen, Mirnegg, Ager, Sela, Lorenzi, Economidis, Hartfield, Klec, Scherrer, Chadaj, Vagnozzi

Jay

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Australian Open Qualifying
OUT: Almagro, Clement, Gallardo-Valles, Kendrick, Kratochvil, Luczak, Summerer, Gasquet, Gimelstob, Moyano, Mutis, Philippoussis, Vinciguerra, Monfils, Sanguinetti (and Bolelli, Kimmich, OpDerHeijde, F.Costa, Ager from ALT)
IN: J.Minar, Dellatorre, vanGemerden, S.Gonzalez, Gamonal, Terachi, Guccione, Kohlmann, Mlynarik, Taino, Reynolds, Piccari, Mazarakis, Bruthans, Ram
NEXT: Chen, Mirnegg, Sela, Lorenzi, Economidis, Hartfield, Klec, Scherrer, Chadaj, Vagnozzi

Jay

[Romano]

Sanguinetti playing auckland quali now??

[Karex]

HI BD or Jay.
Can you tell me if Kenneth Carlsen is on any of theese two turnaments ALT lists ?

Thanks.

[BelgiumDude]

HI BD or Jay.
Can you tell me if Kenneth Carlsen is on any of theese two turnaments ALT lists ?

Thanks.

Carlsen does appear on the original alternate lists of these 2 tournaments,
No. 21 in Auckland and No. 26 in Sydney. So he won't make it in by direct acceptance. But since he is in for the Aus Open en doesn't have to play qualies for AO, my guess is he'll play qualies in Sydney (or Auckland)

[Björki]

Kiwi is out of Sydney. (from his official website)
Haas should be out too.

[PatatRiek]

Sydney Quallie Draw

Auckland Qualie Draw

regards
PatatRiek

[R. Jayakrishnan]

The final entry lists for Sydney and Auckland, for the record:

Auckland (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Koubec, Ancic
IN: R.Mello, Monaco
NEXT: D.Sanchez, Sargsian, Starace, Nieminen, Dupuis ..

Sydney (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Haas, Kiefer (and R.Mello, Monaco from ALT)
IN: Ferrer, Andreev
NEXT: A.Costa, Karlovic, H-T.Lee, Enqvist, D.Sanchez...

Latest Australian Open Qualifying
OUT: Almagro, Clement, Eschauer, Gallardo-Valles, Gasquet, Gimelstob, Kendrick, Kratochvil, Luczak, Monfils, Moyano, Mutis, Philippoussis, Sanguinetti, Summerer, Thomann, Vinciguerra (and Bolelli, Ram, F.Costa, Ager, Kimmich, OpDerHeijde, Scherrer, Vagnozzi from ALT)
IN: J.Minar, Dellatorre, vanGemerden, S.Gonzalez, Gamonal, Terachi, Guccione, Kohlmann, Mlynarik, Taino, Reynolds, Piccari, Mazarakis, Bruthans, Chen, Mirnegg, Sela
NEXT: Lorenzi, Economidis, Hartfield, Klec, Chadaj, Eitzinger, Baccanello, Barsocsky, Iwami, Pedroso, Cerovic

Jay

[nitsansh]

Dudi Sela in Ausie qualifying :yeah:

[Björki]

what about SE for Costa in Sydney?
He reached the semis in Doha.

[MikeH]

Alan Mackin is in the Auckland qualifying draw, does this mean he can't now play in the Aus Open qualies?

[MikeH]

Alan Mackin is in the Auckland qualifying draw, does this mean he can't now play in the Aus Open qualies?

[R. Jayakrishnan]

If Mackin does not qualify at Auckland, he is allowed to play qualies for AO, but then he will not be allowed to play anywhere in the first week of AO main draw - the usual "one tournament per week" rule applies.

Jay

[nitsansh]

Isn't that the same for all players in AO qualies?? They can't play elsewhere on week 3, do they?

[nitsansh]

Jay
Do players who play doubles next week allowed to play at AO qualies??

[liwmh]

Guillermo Garcia-Lopez is a SE for Auckland, whilst Tomas Zib is a SE for Sydney. Santoro withdrew from Auckland.

David Sanchez and Potito Starace enter Auckland,
Albert Costa enters Sydney.

[R. Jayakrishnan]

nitsansh: If they did not play qualies or main draw for one of the week-2 events, they can play week 3 even if they have played the AO qualies on week 2. So, most of those who are in qualies at AO this coming week would probably be playing in week 3 somewhere.

Also, yes, this applies to doubles also. If you are in the doubles draw for Auckland or Sydney or any event in this week and lose early enough, you are allowed to play the AO qualies if you can get there on time (they may even schedule you for the second day of first round Q if needed), but you cannot play in week 3.

Only two events can be played in the 2 week period. Basically you can count AO qualies as an event for week 3 if you played qualies or main draw of a week 2 event, OR you can count the AO qualies as a week-2 event and play another event in week-3 if you had no other event in week-2.

Jay

[nitsansh]

I see... you can chose to count AO qualies for week 2 or week 3, but not both...

Does this rule apply to any tournament other than GS qualies??


BTW... when is the withdrawal deadline for AO qualies?

[shtexas]

Fascinating little rule. Gotta love this site. Learned something new.

[Fee]

Teach us another one Jay...

Flip has withdrawn from Sydney after the draw was made. He had been given a wildcard. Can someone else get that wildcard, or does that spot have to go to a lucky loser from the qualies?

Thanks!

[Tennis724]

I can answer that only because I have downloaded the updated draw. Jarkko Nieminen got the LL spot. and Luke Bourgeois as a Qualifier took the spot that was Flip's. I've personally never seen a WC given to another after the draw has been made. If the draw is made then only LL can fill those spots, right?

[PatatRiek]

I notice Dick Norman is still listed to play qualies in Melbourne, but as far as I know he's not going to Oz

ciao
PatatRiek

[nitsansh]

Dudi Sela is not going to OZ as well... he still recovers from freak injury he sustained in a friendly badminton match with Baghdatis... he was hit in the eye by the shuttlecox...

[robert]

the cut now is 342 (Nenad Zimonjic), this says the homepage of rainer eitzinger ( http://www.rainereitzinger.at/ ).

[BelgiumDude]

I've finalised the qualifyinglist. The final cut is 434 !!
There were only 9 WC's, I thought 10. So I must had somebody missing on the original list. But it's not that important since he withdrew anyway.

[Patrik77]

Thanks BD for excellent structure of all the acceptance lists!!!

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Sorry to disappear for 4 days - was traveling and did not have a decent internet connection ..

BD has the qualifying list all correct. The official final cut was actually #422, but as expected Zimonjic (at Sydney doubles) and Sugiyama (at India F1) could not make it. They were technically eligible to play if they had lost early this week so their name stayed till the draw time. So the final actual cut is 434...

Jay

[Patrik77]

Adrian Garcia is playing AO Qualies but he´s not in your list BD for Ao Qualies?!

How come he´s playing and is not seeded of a ranking on 127? He was not entered in the AO Qualifying, is entered for next weeks challenger in La Serena!