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Postby Patrik77 » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:07 am

Natha: How come Olejniczak made the long expensive trip to Sao Paolo to play a Challenger and then back to Poland instead of continue down to Australia where he would get money back for the expensive trip! Only reason I can think of is that he didn´t know at that time that he would enter the Qualies, or what do you think?
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:08 am

Australian Open Qualifying:

OUT: Almagro, Alves, Arazi, Brzezicki, Calatrava, Del Potro, Elseneer, Enqvist, Gabashvili, Galvani, Gambill, M.Gonzalez, S.Gonzalez, Healey, Jenkins, Karanusic, Kubot, H-T.Lee, Luczak, R.Mello, Norman, Sabau, Silva, Sluiter, Starace, Vacek, Vahaly, Vicente (and Adjei-Darko, Patriarca, Ouahab, Mackin, Ionita, Tarantino, Todero, M.Melo, Engel, Simmonds, T.Chen, Baccanello, Balleret from ALT)

IN: Adaktusson, Marrero, Granollers-Pujol, Meffert, Dorsch, Romero, Saoudi, Auckland, Bloomfield, Klec, Op der Heijde, Rettenmaier, Schukin, Bruthans, Soeda, Pedrini, Motomura, M.Nielsen, Fogues, Rieschick, J.Minar, Zemlja, Bourgeois, P.Sun, Troicki, Olejniczak, Aranguren, Iwabuchi

NEXT: Im, Echagaray, Nunez, Yani, Cerovic, Rastogi, Hammer, T.Popp, Vagnozzi, Lipsky

Cut down to #343 ..
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Postby Patrik77 » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:24 am

Jay, this updating with the AO is almost like a full time job! Quite a lot of updating for you! Thanks a lot! :D
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:29 am

Yes, Patrik, there have been an unholy number of withdrawals this time around.. Now here is a big one ...

Australian Open Main Draw:
OUT: Nadal, Agassi, Beck, Canas, J.Johansson, N.Lapentti, J.Novak, Puerta, Rusedski, Soderling, Verkerk (and Saretta from ALT)
IN: Lisnard, Gimelstob, Starace, Sluiter, H-T.Lee, Vicente, R.Mello, Sabau, Marin, Almagro, O.Hernandez
NEXT: Waske, A.Costa, F.Mantilla, Mazarakis, Portas, Ramirez-Hidalgo, Udomchoke, Gicquel

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Postby Guest » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:44 am

Hello users,
I hope Waske cames in to the Aussie Open Main Draw.
He deserves it to play there.
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Postby Kinetix » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:06 am

Excuse me for the bad information about Thomas Johansson.
In the article was i read, they talks about Joachim :oops:
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Postby Guest » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:22 am

Thanks to everyone who answered me about Bogdanovic. :)
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Postby stfletch » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:29 am

Oops, that we me above.
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Postby Guest » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:56 pm

Aus open site says the main draw will be on sunday , is it correct or is on friday as the previous years ??
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Postby PatatRiek » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:21 pm

Anonymous wrote:Aus open site says the main draw will be on sunday , is it correct or is on friday as the previous years ??


ATP sheet says Friday

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Postby Guest » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:44 pm

Patrik77 wrote:Natha: How come Olejniczak made the long expensive trip to Sao Paolo to play a Challenger and then back to Poland instead of continue down to Australia where he would get money back for the expensive trip! Only reason I can think of is that he didn´t know at that time that he would enter the Qualies, or what do you think?


Nathi seems to be overworking, so I'll answer - probably Olejniczak didn't suspect so low cut off, as he left Warsaw yestarday and is heading for Australia. Kind Regards - Swider
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:43 pm

Australian Open Qualifying:

OUT: Almagro, Alves, Arazi, Brzezicki, Calatrava, Del Potro, Elseneer, Enqvist, Gabashvili, Galvani, Gambill, M.Gonzalez, S.Gonzalez, Healey, Jenkins, Karanusic, Kubot, H-T.Lee, Luczak, R.Mello, Norman, Sabau, Silva, Sluiter, Starace, Vacek, Vahaly, Vicente (and Adjei-Darko, Patriarca, Ouahab, Mackin, Ionita, Tarantino, Todero, M.Melo, Engel, Simmonds, T.Chen, Baccanello, Troicki, Balleret, Nunez, Yani from ALT)

IN: Adaktusson, Marrero, Granollers-Pujol, Meffert, Dorsch, Romero, Saoudi, Auckland, Bloomfield, Klec, Op der Heijde, Rettenmaier, Schukin, Bruthans, Soeda, Pedrini, Motomura, M.Nielsen, Fogues, Rieschick, J.Minar, Zemlja, Bourgeois, P.Sun, Olejniczak, Aranguren, Iwabuchi, Im

NEXT: Echagaray, Cerovic, Rastogi, Hammer, T.Popp, Vagnozzi, Lipsky, Kedriouk, Sarstrand, Matsui

Cut down to #345

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Postby smucav » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:20 pm

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:22 pm

I thought as much when I saw his name cut out from the qualies ... Quite a deserving one, in my view. Jay
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:13 am

Australian Open Main Draw:
OUT: Nadal, Agassi, Beck, Canas, J.Johansson, N.Lapentti, J.Novak, Puerta, Rusedski, Safin, Soderling, Verkerk (and Saretta from ALT)
IN: Lisnard, Gimelstob, Starace, Sluiter, H-T.Lee, Vicente, R.Mello, Sabau, Marin, Almagro, O.Hernandez, Waske
NEXT: A.Costa, F.Mantilla, Mazarakis, Portas, Ramirez-Hidalgo, Udomchoke, Gicquel

Australian Open Qualifying:

OUT: Almagro, Alves, Arazi, Brzezicki, Calatrava, Del Potro, Elseneer, Enqvist, Gabashvili, Galvani, Gambill, M.Gonzalez, S.Gonzalez, Healey, Jenkins, Karanusic, Kubot, H-T.Lee, Luczak, R.Mello, Norman, Sabau, Silva, Sluiter, Starace, Vacek, Vahaly, Vicente, Waske (and Adjei-Darko, Patriarca, Ouahab, Mackin, Ionita, Tarantino, Todero, M.Melo, Engel, Simmonds, T.Chen, P.Sun, Baccanello, Troicki, Aranguren, Balleret, Nunez, Yani, Cerovic, Rastogi, Hammer, T.Popp, Vagnozzi, Kedriouk, Sarstrand, Matsui, Scherrer, Koning, Trujillo-Soler, Clarke from ALT)

IN: Adaktusson, Marrero, Granollers-Pujol, Meffert, Dorsch, Romero, Saoudi, Auckland, Bloomfield, Klec, Op der Heijde, Rettenmaier, Schukin, Bruthans, Soeda, Pedrini, Motomura, M.Nielsen, Fogues, Rieschick, J.Minar, Zemlja, Bourgeois, Olejniczak, Iwabuchi, Im, Echagaray, Lipsky, Villagran

NEXT: Meniane, Sugiyama, Parada, El Aarej, Magdincev, Gonzalez, Tecau, Bardoczky

Cut down to #380

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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:35 am

I think that may pretty much be the final update, as the qualifying draw is expected any time now.

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Postby Guest » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:39 am

R. Jayakrishnan wrote:I think that may pretty much be the final update, as the qualifying draw is expected any time now.

Jay

Qualifying draw -
http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/sco ... index.html

Schedule -
http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/sco ... index.html
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Postby PatatRiek » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:11 am

the draw above is incomplete; you better check the printable version :

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/sco ... qsdraw.pdf

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Postby Nathaliia » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:55 am

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Patrik77 wrote:Natha: How come Olejniczak made the long expensive trip to Sao Paolo to play a Challenger and then back to Poland instead of continue down to Australia where he would get money back for the expensive trip! Only reason I can think of is that he didn´t know at that time that he would enter the Qualies, or what do you think?


Nathi seems to be overworking, so I'll answer - probably Olejniczak didn't suspect so low cut off, as he left Warsaw yestarday and is heading for Australia. Kind Regards - Swider


Whooah Swider !!!!
yee guess how many hours i have slept last week. :roll: if your guess tends to reach around 10 then you'll be right. things are going to be worse and worse now.
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Postby Nathaliia » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:00 am

Patrik77 wrote:Natha: How come Olejniczak made the long expensive trip to Sao Paolo to play a Challenger and then back to Poland instead of continue down to Australia where he would get money back for the expensive trip! Only reason I can think of is that he didn´t know at that time that he would enter the Qualies, or what do you think?

Yes, you are right, he didn't expect the low cut-off, but it can be really exhausting - losing in 1st round in Sao Paolo, then showing up in Warsaw (I wonder how long does the flight go) and then realizing he should be in Australia (it's around 20 hours by plane if I'm right, because I know it's over 20 to New Zealand). As about the money, he's this year in PROKOM TEAM "a" so he rather affords it.
But I only suppose it takes a lot of energy, changing time zones etc. Though if he loses in 1st Q round he must rush to Wrocław for a challenger. Let's hope he won't lose... but I see his psyche is back to normal (normal = terrible) after few good performances and having strong nerves.

Well, some people just enjoy traveling.
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Postby Normanfan222 » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:40 pm

Hey jay, what do you mean when you have players names in bold, for example clarke,T.Chen, Bourgeois, P.Sun??
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Postby R. Jayakrishnan » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:16 pm

The latest OUTs and INs added to the previous list above, are shown in bold to show people what changed from the previous update post... That is all.

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Postby Patrik77 » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:26 pm

Natha: Why didn´t Kubot go to Australia for qualifying? Was a good chance for him, he would have been seeded, get his biggest paycheck and just enjoy the big event!
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Postby Nathaliia » Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:00 pm

Patrik77 wrote:Natha: Why didn´t Kubot go to Australia for qualifying? Was a good chance for him, he would have been seeded, get his biggest paycheck and just enjoy the big event!

SOME PEOPLE decided to come and enjoy but their scores weren't enjoyable, but frustrating for them and their supporters.
And seriously speaking, I think he wants to practise in Europe and be ready for Wrocław challenger instead of changing time zones all the time.
But there is no information, just speculation.
He might be staying now and practising in Prague with his coach.

BTW, Kubot with Marach had a great season's beginning in doubles, Kubot is nearly in top 100. Poland is the country of double players :roll:
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Postby Patrik77 » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:11 am

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Postby zicofirol » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:23 am

there have been suprises today in the qualies, Capdeville lost to a polish ranked over 300, Carraz lost to a swedish ranked 250+ and dudi sela is losing against a japanese ranked 370.
That is pretty lame for all thes eplayers, having a very good chance to get to the open because of a weak qualy draw and the blew it.
I though capdeville was in for sure but he lost easily 4,2.
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Postby Stevie » Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:43 am

Nathi Olejniczak just step away from main draw :o considered that he came there at very last momemnt well dome dawid,and adaktusson is player that he can beat...
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Postby Nathaliia » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:06 am

wow!!! i just enetered the web and what i see? Olej!!!!!!! To tell you the truth, I thought he would win, because I know his style of the game, but you never can tell what's in his head (Stevie can confirm after seeing him in Prague, I guess). He's got a really nice piece of game... Maybe kind of Meffert-like? :KooKoo:
thanks for news! I hope he can do in 3rd round, but i keep repeating, all in his head. he's got more potential than his rank says.
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Postby Guest » Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:21 am

Does anyone know how many lucky losers already defined for main draw?
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Postby Guest » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:21 am

About Olejnichak. Most thrilling part of his play is that almost half of his points he is winning by net approaches. I would love to see his chip-and -charge play in main draw although his upcming opponent has dismissed exactly the same type of players in previous rounds of qualification.
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Postby Nathaliia » Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:00 am

Thank you Guest!!! :D
So he's still going to the net... yeah, he knows how to do it. Aww, you can come up to him and warn him about the next opponent's feature, to be careful!

Olej is a very friendly, down-to-Earth guy and he would have never believed he's the main hero of this thread, but I'm definitely going to tell him about it when I meet him next.

This would be him (unfortunately i can't paste the photo, only the link) http://nathaliia.myphotoalbum.com/view_ ... m02&id=f26
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Postby Nathaliia » Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:28 am

ouch... end of story. But thank you everyone for the kind words. I wonder who was the last Pole in Grand Slam singles main draw in ATP. I think it was in 1970's :shocked:
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Postby Elikian » Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:14 am

I heard it from Fredde this morning. It appears to be Wojtek Fibek .. never heard of him to be honest.

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Postby Jelena » Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:56 am

Elikian wrote:I heard it from Fredde this morning. It appears to be Wojtek Fibek .. never heard of him to be honest.

and I love your sig!


I heard of Wojtek Fibak, but he played far before I started to be interested in Tennis (which was thanks to 17-year-old Boris ;))
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Postby Guest » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:47 am

Last was Wojtek.....Kowalski in USOpen'88.
Wojtek Fibak/Boris Becker winers Munich'84
In 1980 Fibak are quarterfinalist all 4 GS turnaments.

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Postby Nathaliia » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:19 am

Meet the power of Polish tennis. Actually, I checked, and after Wojciech (Wojtek is a shorter nick) Kowalski in 1988 (losing in 1st round of USO) he played Roland Garros 1st round in 1995 (5 sets to Guy Forget).

Wojtek Fibak is a subject for his own story and I don't think I should really post it here, however it's nothing new to any fan of tennis in Poland or any reader of yellow papers.
But yeah, he's the one who really discovered Boris Becker and helped him.
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Postby Nathaliia » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:21 am

Elikian wrote:
and I love your sig!

When I was putting it, it was 10 out of 31. After waking up in the morning, I had to correct it to 32.
What doesn't change the fact my "fave" would say: "What? I won only 10 out of 32 matches? Oh, you like to argue!"
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Postby zicofirol » Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:42 pm

any word on late withdrawls? who would be the first LL?
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Postby Elikian » Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:09 pm

Gicquel will be first LL

and I love him, so I need a withdrawal :D
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Postby Guest » Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:03 am

Beto Martin pulls out because of his mother's decease and is replaced by Luzzi . He's travelling to Spain .
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Postby Eric49 » Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:09 am

Anonymous wrote:Beto Martin pulls out because of his mother's decease and is replaced by Luzzi . He's travelling to Spain .
But why Luzzi and not Gicguel or van Gemerden who are higer ranked? :?
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Postby Elikian » Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:50 am

COMON! You cannot be serious. Didn't they sign the LL list? :shocked: :shocked:
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Postby Guest » Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:19 am

Because there is a new rule specific to Grand Slam tournaments:

The Lucky Loser is randomly choosen between the 4 best ranked players having lost in 3rd round of qualifications.

Explanations in French here:

http://fr.sports.yahoo.com/15012006/26/ ... ement.html

Gicquel thinks it is quite unfair. :(
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Postby Stevie » Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:15 am

Tough for Marc but I think it is a good rule.I saw so many times in past that highest seeds who already did have spot in main draw gave up their matches...
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Postby seb » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:11 am

I was just wondering as well...

Actually, I hoped Gicquel will play the main draw but bad luck for him... I wonder if he new about this rule... Anyway, you have to win three games to qualify, and not rely to possible withdraws ;)

I must admit this is a pretty fair rule to prevent top seeds not to play they third game, like it happened at the French Open. It sets more importance of the term "Lucky" of Lucy Looser...
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Postby Guest » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:59 am

please, be serious, beto martin's mum is most important that the Lucky Loser
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Postby PatatRiek » Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:49 am

what rules are applied to doubles tournament this year? best of 3 sets, or the new rules?

lemmi know

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Postby Elina » Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:21 pm

PatatRiek wrote:what rules are applied to doubles tournament this year? best of 3 sets, or the new rules?

lemmi know

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I was thinking the same and it looks like at Grand Slams they're back to the 'good old' rules. :D
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