week |41| ATP: Moscow, Stockholm, Vienna (+Q)

[ToniX]

Moscow
1 Safin, Marat RUS 5
2 Davydenko, Nikolay RUS 6
3 Puerta, Mariano ARG 10
4 Hrbaty, Dominik SVK 17
5 Youzhny, Mikhail RUS 26
6 Rusedski, Greg GBR 30
7 Mirnyi, Max BLR 32
8 Volandri, Filippo ITA 37
9 Kiefer, Nicolas ALE 38
10 Pavel, Andrei RUM 39
11 Hanescu, Victor RUM 40
12 Andreev, Igor RUS 52
13 Carlsen, Kenneth 55
14 Goldstein, Paul USA 65
15 Mayer, Florian ALE 66
16 Muller, Gilles LUX 68
17 Llodra, Michael FRA 71
18 Serra, Florent FRA 74
19 Saulnier, Cyril FRA 75
20 Santoro, Fabrice FRA 76
21 Kohlschreiber, Philipp ALE 79
22 Hernych, Jan CZE 81
23 Sabau, Razvan RUM 82
24 (SE)
25 (SE)

Alternates
1. Lapentti, Nicolas ECU 83
2. Vik, Robin CZE 84
3. Bracciali, Daniele ITA 87
4. Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP 88
5. Behrend, Tomas GER 89
6. Burgsmuller, Lars GER 90
7. Clement, Arnaud FRA 91
8. Popp, Alexander GER 91
9. Vanek, Jiri CZE 92
10. Dlouhy, Lukas CZE 93
11. Karlovic, Ivo CRO 94
12. Gimelstob, Justin USA 96
13. Djokovic, Novak SCG 97
14. Schuettler, Rainer GER 98
15. Arthurs, Wayne AUS 99

Stockholm
1 Agassi, Andre USA 7
2 Gasquet, Richard FRA 13
3 Johansson, Thomas SWE 14
4 Ferrer, David ESP 15
5 Ancic, Mario CRO 24
6 Dent, Taylor USA 27
7 Rochus, Olivier BEL 29
8 Beck, Karol SVK 36
9 Soderling, Robin SWE 42
10 Monfils, Gael FRA 43
11 Acasuso, Jose ARG 44
12 Mathieu, Paul-Henri FRA 45
13 Spadea, Vincent USA 47
14 Verdasco, Fernando ESP 48
15 Blake, James USA 49
16 Chela, Juan Ignacio ARG 50
17 Srichaphan, Paradorn TAI 51
18 Rochus, Christophe BEL 53
19 Malisse, Xavier BEL 54
20 Nieminen, Jarkko FIN 57
21 Massu, Nicolas CHI 58
22 Sanguinetti, Davide ITA 59
23 Martin, Alberto ESP 61
24 (SE)
25 (SE)

Alternates
1. Zabaleta, Mariano ARG 72
2. Monaco, Juan ARG 80
3. Lapentti, Nicolas ECU 83
4. Vik, Robin CZE 84
5. Bracciali, Daniele ITA 87
6. Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP 88
7. Behrend, Tomas GER 89
8. Burgsmuller, Lars GER 90
9. Clement, Arnaud FRA 91
10. Popp, Alexander GER 91
11. Vanek, Jiri CZE 92
12. Dlouhy, Lukas CZE 93
13. Karlovic, Ivo CRO 94
14. Almagro, Nicolas ESP 95
15. Gimelstob, Justin USA 96

Vienna
1 Nadal, Rafael ESP 2
2 Coria, Guillermo ARG 8
3 Gaudio, Gaston ARG 9
4 Nalbandian, David ARG 11
5 Stepanek, Radek CZE 18
6 Ljubicic, Ivan CRO 19
7 Robredo, Tommy ESP 21
8 Lopez, Feliciano ESP 22
9 Ferrero, Juan Carlos ESP 22
10 Gonzalez, Fernando CHI 23
11 Novak, Jiri CZE 25
12 Haas, Tommy GER 31
13 Moya, Carlos ESP 33
14 Berdych, Tomas CZE 34
15 Grosjean, Sebastien FRA 35
16 Melzer, Jürgen AUT 41
17 Mello, Ricardo BRA 56
18 Zib, Tomas CZE 60
19 Wawrinka, Stanislas SUI 62
20 Horna, Luis PER 63
21 Calleri, Agustin ARG 67
22 Seppi, Andreas ITA 69
23 Kim, Kevin USA 70
24 Minar, Ivo CZE 77


Alternates
1. Monaco, Juan ARG 80
2. Lapentti, Nicolas ECU 83
3. Vik, Robin CZE 84
4. Koubek, Stefan AUT 85
5. Bracciali, Daniele ITA 87
6. Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP 88
7. Behrend, Tomas GER 89
8. Burgsmuller, Lars GER 90
9. Clement, Arnaud FRA 91
10. Popp, Alexander GER 91
11. Vanek, Jiri CZE 92
12. Dlouhy, Lukas CZE 93
13. Karlovic, Ivo CRO 94
14. Almagro, Nicolas ESP 95
15. Gimelstob, Justin USA 96

Vienna Qualifying
1 Almagro, Nicolas ESP 100
2 Ascione, Thierry FRA 96
3 Costa, Albert ESP 102
4 Djokovic, Novak SCG 82
5 Dupuis, Antony FRA 119
6 Greul, Simon GER 124
7 Karanusic, Roko CRO 152
8 Lisnard, Jean-Rene FRA 140
9 Marach, Oliver AUT 129
10 Norman, Dick BEL 114
11 Phau, Bjorn GER 95
12 Simon, Gilles FRA 109
13 Vanek, Jiri CZE 104

Q Alternates
1. Kubot, Lukasz POL 154
2. Carraz, Gregory FRA 157
3. Berrer, Michael GER 162
4. Niemeyer, Frederic CAN 193
5. Parmar, Arvind GBR 196
6. Stakhovsky, Sergiy UKR 199
7. van Scheppingen, Dennis NED 211
8. Snobel, Pavel CZE 217
9. Summerer, Tobias GER 219
10. Masson, Jeroen BEL 220
11. Bolelli, Simone ITA 221
12. Stoppini, Andrea ITA 222
13. Herm-Zahlava, Jakub GER 225
14. Bogdanovic, Alex GBR 231
15. Lammer, Michael SUI 232

[Patrik77]

Wouldn´t it be better to start those new topics when ALL the lists from the tournaments are available instead of only publishing one? When it´s not completed I think it´s better to have it in the open thread for entry lists. Then we don´t have to have different layout and structure of all the lists when one people start the topic in one way and the other adds it in his way. Everybody will also know that when a new topic is created then it containes all the lists!

Nothing against you ToniX because you have been really great with publishing the lists, especially when you´ve done it with all the lists at the same time! Keep up the good work! Now I´m just waiting for the Vienna and Moscow lists to see which players didn´t choose to come to lovely Stockholm...

[Guest]

In the thread stands that there will be the entry lists of Stockholm, Moskow and Vienna. Where are the lists of Vienna and Moskow???
What shall this???

[bass]

More people are wondering.
In the beginning of the year, they didn't like to have something like this.

[Patrik77]

According to Jonas Bjorkman himself he´s been promised a WC to Stockholm

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Pat -- the problem was that I was traveling from early last week. Or we would have had the lists in together, as normal ... Good that Tonix started the thread when he didn't see me post the lists.

I have now added the ALT lists for all three events too, so we are all squared away on this thread ..

Jay

[Björki]

Thansk a lot Jay. we missed you.

[Patrik77]

Now we´re all happy again

[nitsansh]

Andy Roddick didn't enter any tournament between US Open and Madrid...
Is that normal schedule for him???

[nitsansh]

Off topic... I didn't get E-mail alerts for new messages since Sep 2nd... is there anything wrong with the website?

[smucav]

Andy Roddick didn't enter any tournament between US Open and Madrid...
Is that normal schedule for him???

Yes. Davis Cup only.

[D]

Andy Roddick didn't enter any tournament between US Open and Madrid...
Is that normal schedule for him???

the past couple years he entered Bangkok - withdrew in 2003 after Davis Cup at the last minute and made the final last year but needed smelling salts in his first match and got hurt in the epic semi against Safin.... so, he smartly decided to skip it this year.

[nitsansh]

Yes... I recall that late withdrawal from Bangkok that cost him 40K...

well... there are other tournaments he could play that pay out more than Bangkok... Tokyo or Vienna for example...

[nitsansh]

Yes... I recall that late withdrawal from Bangkok that cost him 40K...

well... there are other tournaments he could play that pay out more than Bangkok... Tokyo or Vienna for example...

[nitsansh]

Does anyone know what this means?

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[Guest]

Quick question with regards the ALT lists please (sorry Jay.... I think you covered this once before)
Is there no limit to the number of tournaments a player can be placed on the ALT list? eg - Burgsmüller is down as an ALT player for 3 events.
Many thanks in advance
athie x

[Patrik77]

Vienna Qualifying
1 Djokovic, Novak SCG 82
2 Phau, Bjorn GER 95
3 Ascione, Thierry FRA 96
4 Almagro, Nicolas ESP 100
5 Costa, Albert ESP 102
6 Vanek, Jiri CZE 104
7 Simon, Gilles FRA 109
8 Norman, Dick BEL 114
9 Dupuis, Antony FRA 119
10 Greul, Simon GER 124
11 Marach, Oliver AUT 129
12 Lisnard, Jean-Rene FRA 140
13 Karanusic, Roko CRO 152
14 (WC)
15 (WC)
16 (WC)

Alternates
1 Kubot, Lukasz POL 154
2 Carraz, Gregory FRA 157
3 Berrer, Michael GER 162
4 Niemeyer, Frederic CAN 193
5 Parmar, Arvind GBR 196
6 Stakhovsky, Sergiy UKR 199
7 van Scheppingen, Dennis NED 211
8 Snobel, Pavel CZE 217
9 Summerer, Tobias GER 219
10 Masson, Jeroen BEL 220
11 Bolelli, Simone ITA 221
12 Stoppini, Andrea ITA 222
13 Herm-Zahlava, Jakub GER 225
14 Bogdanovic, Alex GBR 231
15 Lammer, Michael SUI 232

[Elikian]

Quick question with regards the ALT lists please (sorry Jay.... I think you covered this once before)
Is there no limit to the number of tournaments a player can be placed on the ALT list? eg - Burgsmüller is down as an ALT player for 3 events.
Many thanks in advance
athie x

Nope, there's no limit to that. Players just enter more tournaments at once to get directly into the main draw *somewhere* when there are enough withdrawals.

[Judio]

First two WCs for Vienna to Koubek and Marach
Third One is being reserved for an Un named Player??


From Tournament Site
Jürgen Melzer ist fix im Hauptfeld und Stefan Koubek mit einer wild card. Eine weitere wild card geht an Oliver Marach, der zuletzt das Achtelfinale von Bukarest (Niederlage gegen Andrei Pavel) stand und im August in Manerbio (Italien) seinen dritten Challenger gewonnen hat. Die dritte wild card wird für einen, so glaube ich, hoch interessanten Spieler zurückgehalten. Sollte er nicht kommen, würde sie an einen weiteren Österreicher gehen.

[diddy]

Here are the Advance Doubles Entry Lists

VIENNA
Official Player Acceptance List for Doubles Vienna Draw Size = 16 Teams (8 Doubles Acceptances+ 6 Singles entries + 2 WC) Cut Off: 135
DIRECT ACCEPTANCES
1 Bob Bryan (USA) 2 Mike Bryan (USA) 2 4
2 Mark Knowles (BAH) 7 Daniel Nestor (CAN) 8 15
3Jonathan Erlich (ISR) 17 Andy Ram (ISR) 18 35
4Cyril Suk (CZE) 22 Pavel Vizner (CZE) 23 45
5Gaston Etlis (ARG) 28 Martin Rodriguez (ARG) 26 54
6Julian Knowle (AUT) 39 Jurgen Melzer (AUT) 37 76
7Michal Mertinak (SVK) 69 Petr Pala (CZE) 56 125
8Jiri Novak (CZE) 51 David Skoch (CZE) 84 135

MOSCOW
Official Player Acceptance List for Doubles Moscow Draw Size = 16 Teams (8 Doubles Acceptances+ 6 Singles entries + 2 WC) Cut Off: 140
DIRECT ACCEPTANCES
1Michael Llodra (FRA) 9 Fabrice Santoro (FRA) 14 23
2Mahesh Bhupathi (IND) 12 Martin Damm (CZE) 13 25
3Frantisek Cermak (CZE) 24 Leos Friedl (CZE) 19 43
4Dominik Hrbaty (SVK) 41 Jaroslav Levinsky (CZE) 57 98
5Jordan Kerr (AUS) 52 Travis Parrot (USA) 47 99
6Mariusz Fyrstenberg (POL) 62 Marcin Matkowski (POL) 61 123
7Paul Goldstein (USA) 97 Jim Thomas (USA) 31 128
8Jeff Coetzee (RSA) 74 Rogier Wassen (NED) 66 140

STOCKHOLM
Official Player Acceptance List for Doubles
Stockholm Draw Size = 16 Teams (8 Doubles Acceptances+ 6 Singles entries + 2 WC) Cut Off: 83
DIRECT ACCEPTANCES
1Wayne Black (ZIM) 5 Kevin Ullyett (ZIM) 5 10
2Wayne Arthurs (AUS) 15 Paul Hanley (AUS) 10 25
3Leander Paes (IND) 16 Nenad Zimonjic (SCG) 11 27
4Simon Aspelin (SWE) 20 Todd Perry (AUS) 21 41
5Stephen Huss (AUS) 30 Wesley Moodie (RSA) 29 59
6Yves Allegro (SUI) 36 Graydon Oliver (USA) 38 74
7Michael Kohlmann (GER) 48 Alexander Waske (GER) 32 80
8Martin Garcia (ARG) 49 Sebastian Prieto (ARG) 34 83

[rhubarb]

First two WCs for Vienna to Koubek and Marach
Third One is being reserved for an Un named Player??


From Tournament Site
Jürgen Melzer ist fix im Hauptfeld und Stefan Koubek mit einer wild card. Eine weitere wild card geht an Oliver Marach, der zuletzt das Achtelfinale von Bukarest (Niederlage gegen Andrei Pavel) stand und im August in Manerbio (Italien) seinen dritten Challenger gewonnen hat. Die dritte wild card wird für einen, so glaube ich, hoch interessanten Spieler zurückgehalten. Sollte er nicht kommen, würde sie an einen weiteren Österreicher gehen.

Looks like Oliver Marach gets one too, and the fourth (they didn't count properly) is being reserved for a "highly interesting" player, although if he doesn't come it will go to another Austrian. Wonder who that is.

It has also been reported elsewhere that Nadal is tired and thinking of skipping Vienna now.

[Judio]

They can count alright

If you translate from German
Melzer has a direct entry and not a wildcard

[Guest]

Nadal's presence in Vienna is very doubtful due to the huge accumulated tiredness during the season ( He finished Davis cup tie physically destroyed , in fact his coach has admitted that if the two first sets against Seppi have been tougher maybe Nadal hadn't won that match because in the third an fourth set was extremly exhausted.

Now, Nadal is now in a period of rest and recovery and it seems there are a lot of chances that he pulls out of Vienna, but his presence isn't ruled out yet.

Source : His coach's comments

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Added the Vienna Qualifying list above. It had closed on the 19th. Sorry I forgot to add above earlier.

Jay

[rhubarb]

They can count alright

If you translate from German
Melzer has a direct entry and not a wildcard

You're quite right of course, I'm the one with the maths problem it seems

[SeagullUK]

Agassi out of Stockholm - may not play again this year

[Björki]

Moscow: Marat out
from his officail site

[Judio]

I think Nadal is in on the basis of this from Vienna website

Eine Meldung auf der Homepage der Nummer zwei der Welt, von Rafael Nadal, sorgte am Wochenende für Aufregung in der Turnierleitung der 20. BA-CA TennisTrophy. Nadal, die Nummer eins des Jubiläumsturniers erwäge eine Absage für Wien. Montag früh kam die Entwarnung vom Management.
"Eine Absage ist kein Thema", erklärten unisono Nadal-Manager Carlos Costa und Vermittler Sergio Palmieri auf Anfrage von Turnierdirektor Peter Feigl. Nadal hat bereits eine Suite im Wiener Hotel Meridien vom 6. bis 17. Oktober reserviert, ist also auf einen Aufenthalt in Wien bis nach dem Finale eingestellt.
Grosse Erleichterung bei Feigl: "Ich habe nie wirklich an seiner Teilnahme gezweifelt", erklärte der ehemalige Spitzenspieler, "ich weiss, wie solche Meldungen zustande kommen. Da sagt einer etwas von Müdigkeit und schon entstehen Gerüchte!"
Feigl sieht noch einen zusätzlichen Grund für Nadal, in Wien anzutreten: "Federer hat mit seinem Turniersieg in Bangkok wieder die Saison-Führung mit 11 Turniersiegen vor Nadal (10) übernommen, und der Spanier möchte in Wien mit der Nummer eins der Welt wieder gleichziehen."
Erleichtert ist Feigl auch über die Tatsache, dass am Montag vor Beginn der BA-CA-Trophy keine Absagen aus dem Spitzenfeld eingetroffen sind und hofft, dass es so bleibt. Im Gegenteil: es gibt immer wieder Anfragen von prominenten Spielern um eine wild card in letzter Minute: "Das sind sehr attraktive Spieler darunter", freut sich der Turnierdirektor. "Es macht Sinn, die eine wild card noch etwas aufzuheben". Im Moment neigt er dazu, sie einem Spieler zu geben, der schon einmal die BA-CA-Trophy gewonnen hat. Schliesslich wird ja ein Jubiläum gefeiert!
Auf Grund der Entry-List von Montag lautet die inoffizielle Setzliste der 20. BA-CA-Trophy, die am Samstag, 8. Oktober 2005 mit dem Turnier der Champions beginnt, wie folgt:
(1) Rafael Nadal, (2) Guillermo Coria, (3) David Nalbandian, (4) Gaston Gaudio, (5) Ivan Ljubicic, (6) Radek Stepanek, (7) Tommy Robredo, 8 Fernando Gonzalez.

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Early update:

Stockholm - Agassi (and Zabaleta from ALT) are OUT; Monaco IN.

No withdrawals, officially, at Vienna Q, Vienna MD and Moscow.

Jay

[Fee]

Jay, I have an alt list question for you. This one pertains specifically to Justin. He's on all 3 lists, and I think with the way the lists have been dropping the last two weeks, he stands a very good chance of getting in somewhere. All the names are the same, and they will eventually be spread out into the 3 tournaments by the end of the week. Would there be any advantage for Justin to pick a tournament now (say Stockholm) and take his name off the other alt lists, then see if any other players do the same? Perhaps some fo the guys in front of him on the Stockholm list would rather play Moscow or Vienna for some reason and take their names off that list. Do the players do that, or do they just wait to see which one they get into?

[Judio]

Third WC for Vienna has gone to Henman along with Koubek and Marach according to Official Site

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Fiona,

I don't think there is any advantage for oneself in taking one's name off the lists - though it certainly helps the players below in the list.

The players rarely take their names off the list till ATP calls and basically just twists their arms to pick a place by late in the week. If you legitimately are still considering two places, they will let ypu stay in those lists but I believe ATP is quite good in talking you out of more than 2 places by thursday or so ... I wish the players would just decide on some places and take their name off .. They do that generally only in the cases where they have done nothing about the airticket or visas for some of the places. Between European events, they all sit tight and do nothing - if they are in the list for an event in Asia or South America with tougher travel, they might take their names out (at least when ATP calls and asks you if you have a ticket to go etc, I believe! -- they know how to get you to quit dilly-dallying, from what I hear).

The one disadvantage in waiting past wednesday or so to decide on a place is that if you don't make it by thursday/friday, you have very little time to get a good flight and reach the place early enough on friday for some hitting on the court before playing qualies on saturday. So one should have a backup plan on one place and have a cancellable airticket ready to get there at least by friday afternoon.

Jay

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Early update:

Stockholm - Agassi (and Zabaleta from ALT) are OUT; Monaco IN.
Moscow - Safin OUT; N.Lapentti IN

No withdrawals, officially, at Vienna Q and MD ...

Jay

[Patrik77]

Thanks Jay!!

Hopefully we can keep some good players in Stockholm now that Agassi won´t come!

[Fee]

Thanks Jay. I think he's hoping for Stockholm or Vienna (I don't think he did the paperwork to enter Russia). It will be a real drag if everyone decides they are healthy this week and the lists don't move much.

[Patrik77]

Second WC in Stockholm: Enqvist

[nitsansh]

Jay

Don't players have to set their priority when entering several tournaments on the same week? (I know it works like that in WTA)
So they list tournament A as priority 1, tourney B as #2, tourney C as #3 etc... and if they get into the main draw in more than one tourney they are allocated to the one which they put in highest priority...

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Yes, they do set priorities. Often they would put the higher priority for the event they suspect they will not make, and thus the chances are for you to first get closer to the cut in the lower priority events though. Then they may tell ATP that they are not interested and would rather wait for the higher priority event, etc ...

Jay

[Judio]

So if someone pulls out of Vienna can Lapentti say yes to them rather than Moscow ??

or is he committed to Moscow as they had a pull out first??

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Yes he can. I don't know what priortities he specified in his entry, but as he is not cut out from Vienna, I assume he is interested in going there if he makes. If the cut falls there and he makes it, he can go there and can tell ASTP to remove him from the Moscow list.

Jay

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Update -- No change from above in the lists ... Jay

[lucky]

coria is out from vienna
monaco in
but monaco is in in stoccolma
aslo n.lapenti is in inmosca and nr2 from alt in vienna

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Early update:

Moscow (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Safin OUT (and N.Lapentti from ALT)
IN: Vik
NEXT: Bracciali, Garcia-Lopez, Behrend, Burgsmuller, Clement, Popp, Vanek, Dlouhy,

Stockholm (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Agassi (and N.Lapentti, Zabaleta from ALT)
IN: Monaco
NEXT: Vik, Bracciali, Garcia-Lopez, Behrend, Burgsmuller, Clement, Popp, Vanek

Vienna MD (No SE spots)
OUT: Coria (and Monaco from ALT)
IN: N.Lapentti
NEXT: Vik, Koubek, Bracciali, Garcia-Lopez, Behrend, Burgsmuller, Clement, Popp

Vienna Qualifying (No SE spots)
OUT: Marach
IN: Kubot
NEXT: Carraz, Berrer, Niemeyer, Parmar, Stakhovsky, van Scheppingen, Snobel, Summerer

Jay

[Guest]

Whats' up with Coria?

[Patrik77]

Whats' up with Coria?

If they continue like this maybe they all will be suspended for the DC-match against Sweden in February and we´ll have a little chance to win....

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Update:

Moscow (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Safin, Puerta OUT (and N.Lapentti from ALT)
IN: Vik, Bracciali
NEXT: Garcia-Lopez, Behrend, Burgsmuller, Clement, Popp, Vanek, Dlouhy, Karlovic

Stockholm (2 SE spots to be cleared)
OUT: Agassi (and Zabaleta, N.Lapentti from ALT)
IN: Monaco
NEXT: Vik, Bracciali, Garcia-Lopez, Behrend, Burgsmuller, Clement, Popp, Vanek

Vienna MD (No SE spots)
OUT: Coria (and Monaco from ALT)
IN: N.Lapentti
NEXT: Vik, Koubek, Bracciali, Garcia-Lopez, Behrend, Burgsmuller, Clement, Popp

Vienna Qualifying (No SE spots)
OUT: Marach (and Berrer, van Scheppingen, Masson from ALT)
IN: Kubot
NEXT: Carraz, Niemeyer, Parmar, Stakhovsky, Snobel, Summerer, Bolelli, Stoppini

That is interesting. Is Puerta really in trouble? ...

Jay

[lucky]

puerta in a big trouble.
he is "dopato" for the second time.
it is possible OUT for ever.
sorry for my english.
ciao

[Patrik77]

Maybe it´s just a mental break....

[nitsansh]

Is there a comment from ATP on Puerta case?

[guest1]

@jay

are you sure that there is no SE spot in vienna? there are 24 direct entries, 3 wild cards and 4 qualifiers, which makes only 31 instead of 32.

btw: if koubek makes the main draw tomorrow, the third wild card in vienna besides henman and marach goes to local hero alexander peya.