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Robert Dee...how you f**king suck!

Postby Cmb » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:29 pm

you officially suck!

I would bet a hundred bucks that kilray could beat 1 and 1

not one set have you won!!

you dont deserve to be playing pro tennis!

http://www.itftennis.com/mens/players/a ... =100078500
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Postby Normanfan222 » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:10 pm

Have you seen Rob Dee play?
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Postby Cmb » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:36 pm

no, but I have seen Jaime Arriaga play, one of Dee's 16 06 losses and yea, that guy is pretty weak so I can only imagine how bad mister D is...
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Postby Normanfan222 » Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:44 am

Oh right, where did you see Jamie play? He is a pro, or does he just do it for the fun of it?
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Postby Cmb » Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:08 am

I saw Jaime in mexico last summer...I beleive Arriaga is still a junior hoping to turn pro
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Postby Normanfan222 » Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:07 am

Oh right, klkl. He has played a few events this year and hasn't done that well. Just find it hard to see how plays can like afford to travel everywhere considering they has such poor results :?
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Postby Nathaliia » Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:08 am

I can see him signed to alternates in the futures event in Wroclaw next week. What a pity it's his 6th priority. Yeserday I accidentaly happend to attend quallies on Szczecin futures and saw a lot of week guys.
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Postby Max Payne » Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:48 am

http://www.lta.org.uk/GetOnCourt/Player ... 61b0533267
His rating is 6.2 that is shocking - a very low standard county player. Must have rich parents, a real globe trotter.
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Postby Normanfan222 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:21 am

Yeh, when i first saw his result i thought he would have a rating of 2.2 or at the lowest 4.2. I was well suprised because he isn't even able to play on the british tour with his rating :oops:. Yeh im guessing he must have really rich parents or like Adam Lownsbrough, his farther or mother might be involved with setting up tournaments, gd luck to him though :HeadBang:
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Postby bkilray » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:23 pm

Wow CMB you would put up a whole hundred bucks.............. You must be on a college budget, he did win a doubles match in the SUDAN, I wish I could play there but I would be unable to get a visa due to playing in israel, I agree this guy is in a fantasy land, hes ranked in the mid 400's in Great Britain, and qualied for one British tournament. Plus I stopped drinking for a while so your money might be safe.
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Postby Normanfan222 » Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:30 am

Hey Brent hows it going? You got any plans sorted for your first game this season so far?
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Postby Nathaliia » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:47 am

There's an article that might interest you. Unfortunately, I didn't write it (but I actually wouldn't call Arriaga a coach). It's from "The Times"

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...1608380,00.html

PUTTING a face to the names of Paul Brighten, Robert Dee and Adam Lownsbrough would tax the Lawn Tennis Association, yet these three British players have figured in the main draw of recent Challenger events in professional tennis courtesy of wild-card invitations and all have — how can this be put nicely? — virtually failed to trouble the scorers.
What makes this state of affairs extremely worrying is that the wild cards have been acquired at all, because the players have no form (they are equally stationed at No 1,472, ie, the bottom of the Indesit ATP rankings), but tournament directors have seen fit to find a place for them in supposedly reputable events. Ask people in tennis how it happens and they wink. “People pay — it happens all the time,” one official said yesterday, although there is no suggestion that this happened in these cases.



Challengers are one rung short of the ATP Tour. They are arenas where the scrapping for victory is often more intense because the rewards for success are so potentially high. Yet to have drawn a British opponent in the past two weeks has meant a guaranteed place in the next round.

Dee lost 6-0, 6-1 to Jamie Arriaga, a coach from Mexico, in the Casablanca San Ángel event in Mexico City; Brighten was beaten 6-0, 6-0 by Jan Vacek in the Prosperita Open in Ostrava, the Czech Republic; and, this week, Lownsbrough lost 6-0, 6-0 to Olivier Patience, of France, in the San Remo Cup event.

The system means that playing in a Challenger main draw guarantees one ATP point, which can be used as leverage to enter the qualifying competition for lower-ranked tournaments that kick-starts a year’s play over again. It clearly goes against the spirit of the system that these (mis)matches are allowed — it is unfair to a sport that ought to make sure all its tournaments are bona fide, and does the players no favours.

Lownsbrough, a 20-year-old from Halifax, has not won a set in his professional career. The closest he came to the big time was playing an Italian by the name of Andrea Agazzi in a Swedish satellite event last year, when he won two games. Named among the “partners” of the San Remo Cup, listed on the tournament’s website, is LCF Sports Law Solicitors, a Bradford-based company, among whose lawyers is Stephen Lownsbrough, Adam’s father. John Hendrie, the former Bradford City striker and Barnsley manager, is listed as a Sports Law Unit consultant for the firm and also heads up JCH Management, which represents Adam.

Lownsbrough Sr said yesterday: “As a company we specialise in acting for men and women across a whole range of sports — football, tennis, cricket. We also sponsor a number of initiatives — since 1999 we have been involved in the Nottingham Open as a supporting sponsor and partner in various ways.

“We are always looking for new initiatives and, through that, we had the opportunity to sponsor various enterprises in Europe, one of which was the San Remo tournament.

“We were advised that if we had a player interested in playing, they might be prepared to provide a wild card. My son is extremely dedicated to tennis.”

As for Brighten and Dee, little is known of them except that their results do not justify the status of the events in which they have been found. In Ostrava, Brighten not only lost love and love in singles but also, in partnership with Matt Allen, another unheralded British player, was beaten 6-0, 6-1 in the first round of the doubles. Jaroslav Levinsky, one of their opponents, said that Brighten began with four successive double faults and the only point collected in the first two British service games was a misplaced smash “that hit me right on the arse”. The other seven points were double faults. “I have never played a worse pair and they were laughing all through,” he said.

The joke, though, is on a sport in which ranking and reputation are everything and need to be earned. Hundreds of players are striving to make a breakthrough who do not have the resources or the persuasive powers to be granted a helping hand. It would not be so bad if these British players, all of whom want to make a career from tennis, could make a match of their matches, but that is palpably not the case.
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Postby tennissux2006 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:18 pm

speaking of which... this deleon fella bought himself a wildcard in southamerica and lost to some schmuck in the qualies of a us future.. the guy who beat him lost to francis 2 and 0. now francis is not a bad player, but he's definitely no world-beater. so i guess that deleon, dee and the other british hacks should form little travel squad. i think that we should keep tabs on these guys and see who gets the most games by the end of the year.
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Postby Marrickville » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:48 pm

wouldn't you be embarassed to be named SHITKUNTS on the internet, especially on the news.

FFS, quit tennis, or at least try to improve.

what a joke those players bring to the game, i cant imagine what their opponents were thinking or reacting when they drew those clowns.... ONE HUGE GRIN i'd say....
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Postby tennissux2006 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:05 pm

what i don't get is this: what purpose does buying a world ranking serve for these guys? it's not like they and everyone else around them won't know that they suck. it's not like they can walk in a room full of tennis players and somehow pretend that they achieved something. they certainly can't look back upon their lives with any sort of pride or feeling of content. even if they're trying to get a coaching job out of it... how long would that last? anyways, i think that they should get rid of wildcards altogether. it's either about politics or money, and they're both dirty.
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Postby Nathaliia » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:56 am

Since presence in ATP ranking is not awarded by money, and winning any match is for them impossible, I assume they want to stalk serious players in the lockerroom and they can't get guest pass or press pass.
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Postby zicofirol » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:10 am

What I dont get is how these guys have played tennis for a long time and they still suck so bad they cannot even get 1 or 2 games, every match they play at futures level.

You must really suck if youve played all youre life and still cant win a set at the future level.
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Postby Nathaliia » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:36 am

Oh damn, it happens also in WTA!

(it's not about Cappy, it's just the link)

http://capriati.www7.50megs.com/vnews.html

good for you chandra days, you read it with those comments and you've got a wonderful feeling there's someone worse than you. It healed me from a deep depression, other chicks popping here should try this out!
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Postby BoughtMyPoints » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:58 pm

tennissux2006 wrote:what i don't get is this: what purpose does buying a world ranking serve for these guys?


Quite simply, it is a huge help making qualie draws, as you leapfrog over the numerous players trying to enter qualies who have no points whatsoever.

As well, under the revised doubles entry rules, you need single points, not doubles points to enter the draw at Futures level events.

Then there is the Igor Levine scenario : with 1 or more points, you could actually make it into a Grand Slam qualie draw (but Igor failed to show) or make it into an ATP main draw as a lucky loser or alternate, as Igor certainly did.

For the named English players, I think they are just legends in their own minds.

In my own case, if I had continued on tour into 2003 or later, I would have been sorely tempted to get a point just to sign in for doubles. I'd like to think that I would have had the integrity not to have signed in for singles when far worthier unranked players were going to be left out.
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Postby kimeeme » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:08 pm

great, 1 singles point will get you into doubles... even so, if you're not good enough to get a singles point on your own, you're probably not going to be good enough to do anything in terms of doubles either.
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Postby BoughtMyPoints » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:55 pm

Nonsense.

Bhupathi was struggling at singles 5 years ago.

Many of us recall Graydon Oliver's frantic quest for a singles point.

The ATP doubles rep. told me straight out the new rules were designed to keep players like Paul Rosner out of the game.

McEnroe wins ATP San Jose title this year in a mediocre field; just how far do you think he would go in singles?

I recall one tournament losing 0 and 1 to a player and beating him 7-6, 6-2 at doubs (and where I held my serve and my "ringer" partner did not).
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Postby donmcvay » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:12 pm

the exception just proves the rule, jackass! you name a handful of players who may have benefited from having a singles point. i can pull out a list the size of my you-know-what to show you a bunch of one-pointers who never did anything in doubs (or sngls) after obtaining their precious point. besides, all the players you named are SERIOUS players with serious tennis credentials, who would have made it in doubles BUT for the rule change. you can't tell me that someone who's never won anything worthwhile in their whole life would make any sort of waves on the tour once they obtain their point.
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Postby BoughtMyPoints » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:36 pm

donmcvay wrote:the exception just proves the rule, jackass! you name a handful of players who may have benefited from having a singles point. i can pull out a list the size of my you-know-what to show you a bunch of one-pointers who never did anything in doubs (or sngls) after obtaining their precious point.


Calm down, Don.

I was explaining how a singles point would help me and some of those I listed.

As it happens, the "names" in doubles get freebie singles w/c's.
Bhupathi got his for agreeing to play doubles with a well connected local player, not a junior.

I agree 100% that nearly all of the players who are buying points are not doing it to play doubles. And are not going to set the world on light in singles, either.

Why would someone perfectly capable of winning a first round Futures match not play their way through qualies and save the $5000 required for a singles point?

donmcvay wrote:besides, all the players you named are SERIOUS players with serious tennis credentials, who would have made it in doubles BUT for the rule change. you can't tell me that someone who's never won anything worthwhile in their whole life would make any sort of waves on the tour once they obtain their point.


I never said such a player would make "waves", but they would be out there on tour making up numbers in weak doubles draws (and making tournament directors' blood boil).

Now mind your manners!
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Postby EddieV » Thu May 11, 2006 12:26 pm

I told André Ghem about this topic. He read and liked. He said:
"I already know the site, is an old one... dude, I've read about the topic... it's known guys buy wild-cards, but what we can do?... just wish to play against them in the first round and then crush"
By the way, in Casablanca Challenger (MEX), he crushed Dee in first round, 6/2, 6/0 :HeadBang:
Unfortunately, he lost in second round to Sela, in the third set, tie-break.
And won the doubles title partnering with Pierre-Ludovic Duclos (CAN) :D
Ghem is one to watch.
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Postby Normanfan222 » Thu May 11, 2006 2:24 pm

Did he saying anything about Robert Dee at all?
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Postby EddieV » Fri May 12, 2006 4:58 am

Yes, we were talking about him ( I mentioned this topic to him, he came and read and then answered to me).
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Postby Normanfan222 » Fri May 12, 2006 9:07 am

Oh right, Im suprised that Rob Dee got 2 games off Ghem, he must be improving :HeadBang:
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Postby EddieV » Fri May 12, 2006 9:21 am

Me too :shocked:
Maybe Ghem made a lot of unforced errors, double faults. He probably lost both games for himself :lol:
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Postby Normanfan222 » Fri May 12, 2006 10:57 am

did he speak to rob dee much after the match? What did he say was good about rob dee's game?
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Postby Nathaliia » Fri May 12, 2006 12:51 pm

What's happening to Andre Ghem, speaking the devil? He had some winning streak at the futures level (yeap I know he was injured)... then later he defeated Guga... but still no breakthrough and he's not really young as for a breaking through player. Say hello to Andre by the way.
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Postby EddieV » Sat May 13, 2006 7:12 pm

I´ve never met Ghem, just contacted him by Orkut, which is a very popular site in Brazil. Now I´m quite embarassed to ask him about Dee, as I published the little talk we had and didn´t ask for his authorization. Sorry and shame on me :oops: I don´t know if he minds.
Ghem is right now at Zagreb, Croatia, he is seeded #3 at the qualy of the CH and is in the final round (tomorrow he will play against Tkalec, from Slovenia)
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Postby Normanfan222 » Sun May 14, 2006 4:55 am

I think you should try and get some infromation out of him about Dee. See what makes this player keep fighting :HeadBang:
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Postby jimmybkb » Wed May 31, 2006 12:22 pm

Nathaliia wrote:Say hello to Andre by the way.


GROUPIE ALERT
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Postby Lucas Freley » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:25 pm

jimmybkb wrote:
Nathaliia wrote:Say hello to Andre by the way.


GROUPIE ALERT


Well...this is your second post saying GROUPIE ALERT...Is wierd from someone who supposed to be new in the Forum. So...
GROUPIE ALERT
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Postby jimmybkb » Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:00 am

Lucas Freley wrote:Well...this is your second post saying GROUPIE ALERT...


No, it's not. Unless you can't tell the difference between a quote and an actual post.


Lucas Freley wrote:Is wierd from someone who supposed to be new in the Forum. So...
GROUPIE ALERT


Next time try to make sense at least.
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Postby Normanfan222 » Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:55 am

Rob Dee seems to be getting better. In his last two matches he has managed to get a least 2 games in one of the sets. In his last match he lost 3 and 1 and that was the Gilles Krember who is a pretty good player.
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Postby Lucas Freley » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:03 am

Oh...really ???

Well it would be nice that you could tell US (I mean all the Forum) what are the meaning of your posts.

What is Groupie Alert ???
What is ROFLMAO ??????

So you join this forum only to enter in the worst two Topics (Natalia I want dirty sex, and in this) to speaking in some kind of code...

And...someone can see your posts (or quotes if you like) only with enter in your profile.

Thanks for criticize me and for your polite comments about Brian Dabul. Is very funny that being from Nueva Zelandia, you could know a lot of things about Brian Dabul.

Waiting your explanations...You know ??? Is very weird that you quote Natalia in your posts...And is very weird that you know Brian Dabul...Because he is unknown in his own country...!!!
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Postby jimmybkb » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:31 am

Lucas Freley wrote:Oh...really ???

Well it would be nice that you could tell US (I mean all the Forum) what are the meaning of your posts.

What is Groupie Alert ???
What is ROFLMAO ??????

So you join this forum only to enter in the worst two Topics (Natalia I want dirty sex, and in this) to speaking in some kind of code...

And...someone can see your posts (or quotes if you like) only with enter in your profile.

Thanks for criticize me and for your polite comments about Brian Dabul. Is very funny that being from Nueva Zelandia, you could know a lot of things about Brian Dabul.

Waiting your explanations...You know ??? Is very weird that you quote Natalia in your posts...And is very weird that you know Brian Dabul...Because he is unknown in his own country...!!!
Regards, Lucas


Oh, I see you took my comment on the other thread "best juniors..." to heart. If you have some issues with that, why not respond in the proper thread?

Yes, very difficult to know basic details about a player who was the world no. 1 as a junior a couple of years ago. And very weird to quote her, because there are certain posters here who are not allowed to be quoted, right? :KooKoo:
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Postby Lucas Freley » Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:51 am

Thanks !!! :cool:
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Postby Nathaliia » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:48 am

I know Dabul, I am from Poland, I am not a groupie, oh wait we are all groupies of Robert Dee.

;) 8)
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Postby Lucas Freley » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:48 pm

GROUPIE ALERT = :cool: (Swede), :cool: (Polish), :cool: (Belgian), :cool: (French)

So GROUPIE ALERT
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Postby Cmb » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:37 am

Robert Dee is the fuckin man!!
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Postby Normanfan222 » Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:05 pm

Yeh i agree, i think this guy could actually do alright, he seems to be doing better every week, so far. :HeadBang:
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Postby steven » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:16 am

With his double bagel loss yesterday (only the second of his career and to a player he took a single game off the last time they played in 2005), Robert is now up to 52 consecutive losses and within touching distance of Diego Beltranena's world record of 54. He already holds the record for the most consecutive straight sets losses, since Beltranena won a set in one of his first 40 matches.

We're following his quest for the record here
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Postby steven » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:36 am

Well, Rob Dee equalled the record, but didn't manage to break it - not because he retired, but because he WON A MATCH today!

After a world record-equalling 54 consecutive losses, he could have taken the 'world's ultimate loser' record outright, but he fell at the final hurdle in Reus today. That's right, having won a his first set in 109 attempts (his 108 consecutive sets lost at Futures Q level and above IS an outright world record), the confidence gained from that enabled him to win the second and take the match. A triumph for perseverance if ever there was one!

Robert Dee (GBR) UNR beat Arzhang Derakhshani (USA) UNR by 4 & 3 :cool:

How stylish can you get? Equal the record, get everyone on tenterhooks waiting for you to take it outright and then you go and win a match at your 55th attempt?

The big questions now? Quite how rubbish is Chile's Miguel Parada-Mendez, the player Derakhshani once beat 2 & 0?! And when will Rob Dee make the top 100? ;)
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