week *39* : ATP Bangkok, Shanghai, Palermo (27/9-3/10)

[BelgiumDude]

BANGKOK
1 Federer, Roger SUI 1
2 Roddick, Andy USA 2
3 Moya, Carlos ESP 4
4 Safin, Marat RUS 13
5 Srichaphan, Paradorn THA 15
6 Ljubicic, Ivan CRO 26
7 Dent, Taylor USA 28
8 Lopez, Feliciano ESP 31
9 Soderling, Robin SWE 38
10 Labadze, Irakli GEO 42
11 Andreev, Igor RUS 52
12 Karlovic, Ivo CRO 58
13 Johansson, Thomas SWE 61
14 Saulnier, Cyril FRA 64
15 Tursunov, Dmitry RUS 68
16 Carraz, Gregory FRA 71
17 van Scheppingen, Dennis NED 74
18 Benneteau, Julien FRA 75
19 Popp, Alexander GER 82
20 Morrison, Jeff USA 85
21 Saretta, Flavio BRA 100
22 Garcia, Adrian CHI 105
23 Bogomolov Jr., Alex USA 110
24 Reid, Todd AUS 111
25 Gimelstob, Justin USA @
26 (WC) Djokovic, Novak (SCG)
27 (WC) Amritraj, Prakash (IND)
28 (WC) Udomchoke, Danai (THA)
29 QUALIFIER
30 QUALIFIER
31 QUALIFIER
32 QUALIFIER

Alternates
1. Rosset, Marc SUI 118
2. Ventura, Santiago ESP 132
3. Thomann, Nicolas FRA @132
4. Kindlmann, Dieter GER 133
5. Vacek, Jan CZE 134
6. Heuberger, Ivo SUI 135
7. Zib, Tomas CZE 137
8. Okun, Noam ISR 139
9. Luczak, Peter AUS 140
10. Lapentti, Nicolas ECU 142
11. Levy, Harel ISR 143
12. Karanusic, Roko CRO 144
13. Baccanello, Paul AUS @144
14. van Lottum, John NED 145
15. Kim, Kevin USA 148
16. Vanek, Jiri CZE 150
17. Moodie, Wesley RSA 151
18. Kratochvil, Michel SUI 153
19. Norman, Dick BEL 154
20. Jeanpierre, Julien FRA 155
21. Kendrick, Robert USA 156
22. Salzenstein, Jeff USA 159
23. Pescosolido, Stefano ITA 160
24. Vassallo Arguello, Martin ITA 164
25. De Chaunac, Sebastien FRA 165
26. Bracciali, Daniele ITA 166
27. Minar, Ivo CZE 167
28. Savolt, Attila HUN @167
29. Phau, Bjorn GER 168
30. Chiudinelli, Marco SUI 169

SHANGHAI
1 Ferrero, Juan Carlos ESP 7
2 Gaudio, Gaston ARG 10
3 Novak, Jiri CZE 24
4 Schalken, Sjeng NED 25
5 Canas, Guillermo ARG 30
6 Philippoussis, Mark AUS 56
7 Nieminen, Jarkko FIN 70
8 Lee, Hyung-Taik KOR 76
9 Hernych, Jan CZE 77
10 Gambill, Jan-Michael USA 80
11 Arthurs, Wayne AUS 89
12 Lu, Yen-Hsun TPE 93
13 Carlsen, Kenneth DEN 94
14 Sanguinetti, Davide ITA 107
15 Mello, Ricardo BRA 113
16 Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP 116
17 Tipsarevic, Janko SCG 121
18 Ulihrach, Bohdan CZE 122
19 Weiner, Glenn USA 123
20 Muller, Gilles LUX 124
21 Rochus, Christophe BEL 126
22 Lisnard, Jean-Rene FRA 127
23 Burgsmuller, Lars GER 128
24 Peya, Alexander AUT 131
25 Pless, Kristian DEN @
26 (WC) Van Lottum, John (NED)
27 (WC) Zhu, Ben Qiang (CHN)
28 (WC) Zeng, Shao Xuan (CHN)
29 QUALIFIER
30 QUALIFIER
31 QUALIFIER
32 QUALIFIER

Alternates
1. Ventura, Santiago ESP 132
2. Thomann, Nicolas FRA @132
3. Kindlmann, Dieter GER 133
4. Vacek, Jan CZE 134
5. Heuberger, Ivo SUI 135
6. Zib, Tomas CZE 137

PALERMO
1 Massu, Nicolas CHI 14
2 Verdasco, Fernando ESP 34
3 Mayer, Florian GER 36
4 Verkerk, Martin NED 40
5 Zabaleta, Mariano ARG 49
6 Ferrer, David ESP 51
7 Davydenko, Nikolay RUS 53
8 Martin, Alberto ESP 57
9 Volandri, Filippo ITA 59
10 Sanchez, David ESP 62
11 Acasuso, Jose ARG 78
12 Berdych, Tomas CZE 79
13 Monaco, Juan ARG 81
14 Montanes, Albert ESP 83
15 Hanescu, Victor ROM 86
16 Hernandez, Oscar ESP 87
17 Mantilla, Felix ESP 88
18 Corretja, Alex ESP 91
19 Starace, Potito ITA 92
20 Patience, Olivier FRA 95
21 Mathieu, Paul-Henri FRA 98
22 Kohlschreiber, Philipp GER 101
23 Calatrava, Alex ESP 103
24 Vliegen, Kristof BEL 104
25 Di Pasquale, Arnaud FRA @
26 (WC) Aldi, Fransesco (ITA)
27 (WC) Nadal, Rafael (ESP)
28 (WC) Seppi, Andreas (ITA)
29 QUALIFIER
30 QUALIFIER
31 QUALIFIER
32 QUALIFIER

Alternates
1. Elsner, Daniel GER 106
2. Mutis, Olivier FRA 114
3. Gasquet, Richard FRA 117
4. Falla, Alejandro COL 120
5. Lopez, Marc ESP 125

[BelgiumDude]

sorry, double post

[nitsansh]

Bangkok surely pay appearance fees to attract Rogi and Andy...

[liwmh]

verkerk should be out. is schalken out also?

[PatatRiek]

is schalken out also?

he came back on his discission to stop playing this year, his new schedule looks like this :

Madrid
Sankt Anton
Challenger Groningen

[Lord Lannister]

Why is Verkerk out for so long?

[donkie]

Verkerk has a shoulder injury. He hoped to recover by taking a rest but this did not work. Today it was in the Dutch press that he has to undergo surgery. Recovery will take at least six weeks in an optimistic scenario but in the worst scenario could even take 6 to 8 months!
So it looks almost certain he will not play any tournaments anymore in 2004.

[PatatRiek]

hopefully Jay will gives us some updates this week

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Sorry, I was extremely busy since last thursday

Updates:

Bangkok ATP (No SE spots)
OUT: Labadze, Saulnier, Tursunov (and quite a few from the ALT list) .. No top-40 withdrawals.
IN: Rosset, Thomann, Kindlmann
NEXT: Vacek, Heuberger, Zib, Okun, Luczak, Levy, Baccanello, van Lottum, Vanek, Pescosolido, Bracciali ..

Shanghai
OUT: Schalken (and Ventura from ALT list)
IN: Thomann
NEXT: Kindlmann, Vacek, Heuberger, Zib, Okun, Luczak, Levy, Baccanello, van Lottum, Vanek, Pescosolido, Bracciali ..

Palermo
OUT: Verkerk
IN: Elsner
NEXT: Mutis, Gasquet, Falla, Lopez, Almagro, Blanco, Thomann, Kindlmann, Vacek

Jay

[liwmh]

there are 2 thomann.

[R. Jayakrishnan]

It is normal to have the same name from the ALT enter multiple lists and stay there till ATP hears from the player about where he is going .. Thus Thomann was in all three lists (as are other players).

Here is another update. Thomann is still not removed from the Palermo list. I suppose he had higher priority for that event and they will wait to see if he could make that one (probably not) ..

Bangkok ATP (No SE spots)
OUT: Labadze, Saulnier, Tursunov (and quite a few from the ALT list) .. No top-40 withdrawals.
IN: Rosset, Thomann, Heuberger
NEXT: Zib, Okun, Luczak, Levy, Baccanello, van Lottum, Vanek, Pescosolido, Bracciali, Savolt ..

Shanghai
OUT: Schalken (and Ventura, Thomann, Kindlmann from ALT list)
IN: Vacek
NEXT: Heuberger, Zib, Okun, Luczak, Levy, Baccanello, van Lottum, Vanek, Pescosolido, Bracciali ..

Palermo
OUT: Verkerk
IN: Elsner
NEXT: Mutis, Gasquet, Falla, Lopez, Almagro, Blanco, Thomann, Kindlmann, Vacek

Jay

[PatatRiek]

thanks for the updates Jay

i'm glad that christophe rochus hasn't withdraw yet but it could happen later this week

[zik013]

Hi guys, great site

Did i understand it correctly, Roko Karanusic wont be playing none of the qualifying events of these 3 tournaments ??

also, is it possible to see the whole qualifying lists not just the next in main draw for these tournaments,

help is greatly appreciated !

[PatatRiek]

also, is it possible to see the whole qualifying lists not just the next in main draw for these tournaments

i don't think there is a qualifying list, you have to show up to sign in for qualies ... so if Roko Karanusic shows up and he makes the cutt, he'll be in the Qdraw

a few bigger events have a qualifying list , for instance the US Open

[zik013]

also, is it possible to see the whole qualifying lists not just the next in main draw for these tournaments

i don't think there is a qualifying list, you have to show up to sign in for qualies ... so if Roko Karanusic shows up and he makes the cutt, he'll be in the Qdraw

a few bigger events have a qualifying list , for instance the US Open

i mean approximatelly list who CAN make it...

[zik013]

it is just that in the first post, Karanusic was listed as in the NEXT in DRAW lists, but later, he is not there anymore... why is that ?

[PatatRiek]

i mean approximatelly list who CAN make it...

that is not possible... but guys that are in the ALT list and not made the maindraw might show up to play the qualies... you never know for sure though

[PatatRiek]

it is just that in the first post, Karanusic was listed as in the NEXT in DRAW lists, but later, he is not there anymore... why is that ?

now i see it, he's probably OUT for both events he signed in ...but i don't know why...

[PatatRiek]

i know why ... Karanusic will play the Dubrovnik Challenger you might wanna check the Challenger topic

[zik013]

so what about Roko ?? why isnt he in the next in main draw anymore

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Update:

No changes at all from what I updated above, at the three places ...

Jay

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Bangkok ATP (No SE spots)
OUT: Labadze, Saulnier, Tursunov, Karlovic (and quite a few from the ALT list) .. No top-40 withdrawals.
IN: Rosset, Thomann, Heuberger, Zib
NEXT: Okun, Luczak, Levy, Baccanello, van Lottum, Vanek, Pescosolido, Bracciali, Savolt ..

Shanghai (No SE spots)
No change from above

Palermo (No SE spots)
No change from above

Jay

[PatatRiek]

Shanghai (No SE spots)
No change from above

that is good news

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Updates:

Bangkok ATP (No SE spots)
OUT: Labadze, Saulnier, Tursunov, Karlovic, Carraz, Ljubicic, Popp ..
IN: Rosset, Thomann, Heuberger, Okun, Levy, Baccanello, Vanek
NEXT: Pescosolido, Bracciali, Savolt, Phau ..

Shanghai
OUT: Schalken, Gaudio
IN: Vacek, Zib
NEXT: Okun, Levy, Baccanello, van Lottum, Vanek, Pescosolido, Bracciali, Savolt, Phau ..

Palermo
OUT: Verkerk, Lathieu, Zabaleta
IN: Elsner, Mutis, Gasquet
NEXT: Falla, Lopez, Almagro, Blanco, Thomann, Kindlmann, Vacek, Zib

Jay

[zik013]

is Franco Squilarri in the list for Palermo ???

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Squillari is the next name in the ALT after Zib.

Jay

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Palermo
OUT: Corretja, Verkerk, Mathieu, Zabaleta
IN: Elsner, Mutis, Gasquet, Falla
NEXT: Lopez, Almagro, Blanco, Thomann, Kindlmann, Vacek, Zib, Squillari

Jay

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Seeds at the Shanghai ATP qualies:

Phau, Roger-Vasselin, van Gemerden, Wang, Y. Jr., healy, Klec, Davletshin, S-H.Lee

Jay

[Guest]

i am guessing that popp must be injured or can't afford the travel fair, becuase he keeps on pulling out of tournaments. Does anybody out there know why Karlovic has withdrew. Do you like have to give a reason or do you just ring in and say that you don't want to play?

[Normanfan222]

hi again the guy who knows everything on this forum, you are the greatest , could you tell me if Dick Norman or Kevin Sorenson are on any of the alt lists. I know Kev sorenson is low in the rankings, but he has shot up to 511 which is well good, he should be on some of the challengers at least, k thanks bye.

[PatatRiek]

Dick Norman is playing the Grenoble Challenger

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Updates:

Bangkok ATP (No SE spots)
OUT: Labadze, Saulnier, Tursunov, Karlovic, Carraz, Ljubicic, Popp, Bennetau, and one other name (withheld ) ..
IN: Rosset, Thomann, Heuberger, Okun, Levy, Baccanello, Vanek,
NEXT: Y-T.Wang, D.Udomchoke, Berrer, Waske

Shanghai
Final official list, as above [more could have gone in at the site]

Palermo
Final official list, as above [more could have gone in at the site]

Jay

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Palermo ATP qualifying seeds:

Almagro, DiMauro, Blanco, Gimeno-Tarver, Vicente, Galimberti, Puerta, Marin.

Jay

[Fee]

Karlovic has a foot/ankle injury. I think Popp is nursing an injury too. I'll see if I can find that info.

[R. Jayakrishnan]

Bangkok ATP qualifying seeds:

Chiudinelli, Parmar, Ryderstedt, Kohlmann, Iwabuchi, Crabb, Lindstedt, Haddad. All have qualifying first round byes.

Jay

[Karex]

Anybody got the link for Shanghais webpage ?

[PatatRiek]

Anybody got the link for Shanghais webpage ?

this is the only site i found :

http://www.heinekenchina.com/HOS/index.htm

but it's all flash & chinese

[BelgiumDude]

the lists are finalised.
Red is OUT
Green is IN

greetings

BD

[westaussie]

where is luczak gona i wonder?

also anyone know the qualifying draw for shanghai? any aussies there?

Go Jaymon Crabb, Mark Hlawaty, Ashley Dyer and Miles Armstrong
Go West Aussies!